posted Tue, 04/24/2012 - 18:20
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New Primobolan Beginner Update
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I'm planning a 300 - 400 mg a week of primobolan depot for 8 - 12 weeks depending on how much I have....
I'm (Through good advice on here) getting a PCT....
I'm grabbing clomid....Can't get nolvadex....Would this work?
Could someone inform me on how much and when to start Clomid?
(I can't get Test so please don't tell me test should be in it....trying to get my hands on Deca. but not sure I can)
Thoughts and advice would be very helpful please....
Thank You....
R.
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Not being able to get test is like not being able to get laid in a Tijuana whore house ....pm me if you need sources
can primo + proviron can do the work without test only for cutting a bit??
for example 400mg/week of primo + 50mg proviron ed??
unlimitedyou cant get test? have you looked on the site...seems to be plenty of test floating around...idk just sayin
It looks as though you want people to tell you what you are doing is a great idea. I wish I could talk you into doing some research and figure out what you are going to do to yourself but I am sure I will fail. When you do the primo and deca which you should not please start a new page and let everyone know what is going on with you during and after your cycle. Even though you will not learn from everyone elses mistakes maybe there will be someone out there that will learn from yours. If you are sitting on the fence and are willing to listen I will be happy to tell you about the time I ran Tren E alone (tren e will do the same as deca to your body). PM me if you are willing to listen if not please do not waste my time.
If you can't test, then you can't get big---period.
Looks like its back to the drawing board for you my friend. Take the advice from the other members your way in over your head at this point.
HardLuck13I'm right there with the HBG. There are certain things that must be learned before a new user runs a cycle. The first should be an understanding of what Endogenous and exogenous test is. Understanding how each is vital to the symbian levels of Test and Estrogen in your body is key. Too much of one or the other is crucial to a successful cycle and even further a successful AAS lifespan.
When a person wants to run a cycle without exogenous test the user is relying on his endogenous test to carry them through. That being something that can never happen efficiently. The issue that Grrrl states is Primo although low in HPTA shutdown it will nonetheless shut u down. Take into consideration that a successful cycle for a male requires a dose of 600mg minimum for at least 12 wks almost gaurantees that you endogenous test will have been depleted long before the 12 wks is up. This will result in poor gains in the end and perhaps a reduction of the gains you may have added in the beginning. It will leave you full of estrogen and may cause serious long lasting sides from high estrogen. Let alone the risk you subject your HPTA axis to. It is a risk a healthy male should never play with.
Adding Deca to this already flawed situation would only increase the likelihood of a permanent detrement to yourself. 19nor compounds are some of the most dangerous compounds to run in any cycle especially one with zero exongenous test in it.
My last piece of advice I can give you is that if getting Test is impossible then I would most definitely hold off on running this cycle until you do have some. Honestly if you say it is impossible then you are underutilizing this great site we have here in EROIDS. Best wishes
I liked your post. Clicked plus 1.....but it didn't stick at first. Sorry
Test e is cheap. Get it. Then state your stats...age...bf....experience lifting etc. Dont hit geat til you're completely as big as you can get naturally.
saying you cant get a hold of gear on a site like eroids is a little counter intuitive. Unless is cost wise but if you can not get test because of cost but can deca which in some cases is more costly so this must not be the case. Also primo dose is way to low, you have no test base and your pct is nonexistent. Clomid is fine to answer your really only question.
AnonQuite frankly, I don't know what to say other than adding deca to something that should have TEST in it is really what I like to call a beginner mistake. You obviously don't have the time or inclination to understand what a cycle is or should be. Primo for men should be run at least 600mg or higher for 12 weeks.. dosages lower than that really aren't effective... You will feel like complete and utter crap at some point during this cycle because you are not running test. You don't have any as to when to start your PCT which also tells me you are a complete newcomer to the scene.. I m sure you will live through this .. However, please, refrain from complaining about the sad state of affairs when you wonder why you can't seem to get up the energy to get up and go .. and your gear doesn't work because you aren't seeing any results.. Good luck Rando.. may the force be with you because the juice god surely isn't
I'm looking for advice here....
I don't know what I'm doing....
If someone would help me create a safe and cost effective cycle together I would much appreciate it....
Stop berating me and help me....
I have Primo.....I'd be happy to get whatever else....
I have read that Deca and Primo is a great first cycle if paired with pct clomid after?
Am I wrong?
unlimitedHey man, no worries..everyone's just trying to help...take the sound advice of running only test for your first cycle preferably Test E or C at 500mgs PW...you'll more than likely be stoked (that is if training diet and sleep are in order)
WRONG bro best first cycle is 500mg 2x250 pr wk test E for a min of 12wks coupled with a proper nutritional food intake and hard intense exercise will give results , start PCT 2wks after last test shot we have loads of PCT cycles in the pct section.
This is THE first cycle PERIOD.
Amen!
HardLuck13I would hope a man or woman would listen to a member with the badge "PRO" under his Avatar!
Anonwhat the hell is wrong with my MOD tag.. not pretty enough for you?
HardLuck13I am human and a mistake is bound to happen to us all sister. Forgive me if I didn't show the proper respect a Gearhead of your expertise deserves. Your summation of what will happen to this guy was A1 spot on accurate.
Nice grrrl straight in with on the money advice.
Worth your weight in gold around these parts +3 happy 600 babe
Couldn't have said it any better myself.