New Cycle for me
Hi there,
I'm looking for a new cycle, this is my 5th cycle in life I'm OFF for 1 year (cycle +pct = time off rule). I'm 29 175cm 84kg 12%bf, I'm looking for a "cutting" cycle, my diet is Ok and well calculated for this purpose.
the cycle that i was thinking about is this:
Bloodwork before
week 1-8
Mon: test P 100mg + proviron 50mg
tue: tren A 100mg + proviron 50mg
Wed: test P 100mg + proviron 50mg
thu: Tren A 100mg + proviron 50mg
fri: Test P 100mg + proviron 50mg
sat: Tren A 100mg + proviron 50mg
sun: proviron 50mg
Week 1-8
HCG 250iu E3D (or E2D)
Aromasin 12.5mg E3D
Cabergoline at hand if needed 0.5 twice a week (for trenbolone's effect on prolactin. Use after bloodwork)
Week 5 Bloodwork for check prolactin and others
Week 4-8
Oral Winstrol (stargate) 50mg/ ED
PCT (after 5 days last inject keeping the HCG until the ester leaves my body)
6 weeks (not the classic 4 weeks because I need more time to kick the recover)
Clomid 100/100/50/50/50/50
Nolvadex 40/40/20/20/20/20
Cycle Support: liv52, legalon, vit D3, zinc
PCT support: DAA, aminoacids, Cardarine, Zinc, D3, liv52
8 weeks later PCT: Bloodwork
What Do you think about this ? I'd like to use some masteron A also..
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Looks like a twiglett cycle. And since when are personal trainers qualified to " prescribe " tren ? Id love to bash your pt in the face. Massive over kill. Cool your a martial artist. Test prop is plenty for stamina, recovery and more grunt. I see a hundred bull shit things listed, trim all the shit.
Test
Multi vitamin
Ai on hand
Nolva/ clomid pct
A good diet.
The rest of list can get fucked a long with your pt.
Im not recommending you anything accept good diet. But im giving you heads up. The cycle layout and list of shit screams kiddy.
Thanks a lot for your reply
so test propionate EOD for 8 weeks is enough ? Without Hcg? And no oxa or win for a finisher?
Thanks again
Yeah dude, you're going to get flamed for proposing this, and rightfully so.
What type of gains did you get from your previous 5 cycles? If you've run that many cycles and proposing tren, you need to have much more impressive stats.
You don't need drugs to cut. You'd be way better off using the money for an experienced coach for a great cutting diet. This would get you better results and save your body the stress and damage from drugs, especially tren.
Something is off with your situation and drugs aren't the answer.
It will.be easy for you to get defensive seeing as to how people on here are giving you shit. Instead, reflect on your proposal, it would be eat for you to reconsider your plan of execution.
Personally, i would be aimed for a bulk at your stats and body fat. Again, consider spending your money on a well written diet, which ever goal you choose.
Hi Shiva,
thanks for your reply, let me clarify that I'm not a bodybuilder, I do martial arts, i cannot be hp +20. I already have a pt for my diet and my training. In my previous cycle I used test E and test P plus some orals, gaining more or less 9-10kg and I kept them. the tren was suggested to me from a "pt" but first i asked here for confirmation or some advice. let me explain why I asked for a cycle advice: For martial arts I must respect a weight category (mine is -84, where 84 is the maximum weight) What I'm looking for is to lower the body fat to 7-8% (as i was last year but not a 84) and keep my actual Weight (84) because when I dieting (without using drugs) I can reach 7-8% of bf but I lose also some kg like down to 80 that is not so good because in this case I'd be too heavy for the other weight category (-77kg) and too light for the 84 category and gain some more strength.. that's it. For "cutting" cycle was a bad choice of words, my bad!
thanks !
Diet decides cut and if you are 160 what the hell are you cutting? Here's an idea looking at your proposed cycle that will save you from buying gear.....Drink 2 gallons of water or more every day and hold your piss until you burst. Do that for 3 months. Because all you will gain is water from your cycle anyway you don't have enough muscle on your frame to justify this. My plan will do the same thing for you.
Rustyhooker5-8 @ 185 and 12% bf
Ummm... why tren? Why are you 40 pounds light to even need drugs?
why isnt anyone checking stats?
what do you mean with 5-8 @185? my height is 175cm and my weight is 84-85 it is hp +10... I know is not to much but i'm not a body builder, I do martial arts... i cannot be hp +20. about tren because that combo was suggested to me from a "pt" but first i asked here for confirmation or some advice. let me explain why I asked for a cycle advice: For martial arts I must respect a weight category (mine is -84, where 84 is the maximum weight). For "cutting" cycle was a bad choice of words, my bad, What I'm looking for is to lower the bodyfat to 7-8% (as i was last year) and keep my actual Weight (84) because when I dieting (without using drugs) I can reach 7-8% of bf but I lose also some kg's like down to 80 that is not so good because I'm too heavy for the other weight category and too light for the 84 category... that's it.
RustyhookerTren kills endurance horribly. Your opponent will smash you under 30 seconds.
Your pt is a fukwit.
Whats your priors with gear?
Hi rustyhooker,
Thanks for your reply.. i used testo e testo p, eq, win, oral winny and anavar... what i could use for my purpose? Thanks for your help
Rustyhookeryour age up top is different than your main stats page. Age: 28...Height: 175...Weight: 84...BF:
So you forgot your age in just 1 day? Im outta here...good luck
Sorry, my bad 29 is a typo. I'm 28 now i'll be 29 in august... there isn't so much difference..
Better results and a better overall mood with 25m of Test and 50mg of Tren daily. PIP will also not be as bad. As for the Caber, Im confused on the "if needed", how will you determine if you need it? Blood tests? You won't know till weeks into the cycle which will be too late.
Proviron causes high blood pressure and adds to the Test, I don't think you need it.
You wanna add mast in there when you are already adding Winny? Both are DHT so thats not very wise with liver and hair loss.
Adding more is not always beneficial. KISS- keep it simple stupid
You should always use caber if needed. Caber should not just automatically be thrown in. If estro is in check then prolactin will be...with most people. He is correct to check with bloodwork
But I think this cutting cycle is a waste of a cycle. Steroids build muscle, so use them for that. Diet makes you lose fat and get cut. So cycle to gain more mass then diet to cut.
No point in cycle bunch of gear to be 165 pounds
And since you will still do this cycle no matter the advice you get, combine the injections, 0 reason for you to pin like that.
Hi tren,
thanks for your reply, let me clarify that I'm not a bodybuilder, I do martial arts, i cannot be hp +20. I already have a pt for my diet and my training. In my previous cycle I used test E and test P plus some orals, gaining more or less 9-10kg and I kept them. the tren was suggested to me from a "pt" but first i asked here for confirmation or some advice. let me explain why I asked for a cycle advice: For martial arts I must respect a weight category (mine is -84, where 84 is the maximum weight) What I'm looking for is to lower the body fat to 7-8% (as i was last year but not a 84) and keep my actual Weight (84) because when I dieting (without using drugs) I can reach 7-8% of bf but I lose also some kg like down to 80 that is not so good because in this case I'd be too heavy for the other weight category (-77kg) and too light for the 84 category and gain some more strength.. that's it. For "cutting" cycle was a bad choice of words, my bad!
thanks !
Martial arts? The tren is going to kill your cardio.
"And since you will still do this cycle no matter the advice you get, combine the injections, 0 reason for you to pin like that."
The same reason I answered, Im glad you pointed out that he is only 160lbs, I missed that originally. Maybe I should just go back to not answering questions on forums like I've been doing the past 2 years.
I've missed those kinds of things plenty, I just made myself get in the habit of looking at someone's stats first.
at 84kg 12% I think you're wasting a cycle cutting & every day injections for 8 weeks,fuck that
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