+ 1 Need help with my 2nd cycle
I'm 37 years old, 5'9", 175lbs, about 9%bf. I've been working out hardcore and eating clean for the past 4 years, all natural with no supplements. Reason being is that I have been out of the U.S. for the past 4 years with no access to anything except protein powder. I left 4 years ago around 205lbs @ 25%bf and I've worked very hard to get where I'm at now. I'm ready to start a somewhat basic-moderate cycle. I did my first cycle back in 2003 which consisted of test, eq and winstrol but I was young and did it all wrong (slacking in the gym, eating trash and still partying). My goals for this cycle is to put on about 10-15lbs of muscle and still stay as lean as I am now. My boy is telling me to do test w/ a small dose of tren or deca for 12 weeks but I've researched tren on here and that probably wouldn't be recommended on my 2nd cycle. What would be a good start for my second cycle? If I do test for 12 weeks, whats a good compound to stack it with? Is 12 weeks enough or longer/shorter? I will be working out 5 days a week, eating super clean, no drinking with plenty of sleep. If I remember correctly I didn't have any side effects with my first cycle besides some minor acne on my shouldners. All help will be greatly appreciated!
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Ok so I bump my calories up over the next couple of months and get my weight back up to 190. I know some of you think it's a bad idea to run a cycle but I feel that I'm ready. If it's a test only cycle than that's what it will be. If I was 190 and wanted to run a beginner cycle, what should that be? I came here to get help, post results and pics and hopefully in the future when I learn more help new members like me out. I got people here on the street trying to get me to run a cycle of test and tren, then I did my research on eroids about tren this morning and realized that would be a huge mistake so that's why I became a member to get expert information about what I should run.
I'm not here to bash you or try to embarrass you in a public forum. But we need to talk bro. Send me a friend request (FR) and I will accept and then when can exchange private mail (PM).
GearHead, thanks, friend request sent.
Accepted.
Sounds like you know what's up already to me...
Welcome to Eroids...glad you're here...
My weight has been between 185-200 for the past 4 years. The only reason it's 175 right now is because I knew I was getting ready to come home after 4 years right before the summer and wanted to cut up so my diet got strict. I was 196 in January and lost on average .5-1lb per week before I came home 3 weeks ago. I can bump my calories up, all clean and get to 190 in no time. I read the "time for a reality check" post and you talk about benching at least 3 plates and squatting at least 4 plates. At 175lbs eating 200 carbs a day I can rep that weight on both exercises. I state that I'm 175lbs now but like I said that is because I wanted to cut up before summer. When it comes time to start my cycle I will bump my calories back up and be right back to my off season weight of 190+.
Bro, I'm glad you're in shape and all. 9% BF is really lean. While it's possible you are not "that guy" we are talking about in "Time for a Reality Check" please understand that at 9% BF your lean body mass is 159 lbs.
Being 5' 9" with a LBM of 159 lbs. is just not a candidate for anabolic steroids. I fully understand that you are going to go ahead and do what you think is best for you. And, there are certainly other forums besides this one where cycle advise is given to anybody that asks, no questions asked. I'm sure you can find out everything you need to know to stay safe and do it right. Actually, if you just researched the archives on this website, you could find out everything you need to know as well, to be honest. It is just my personal decision at this point, no longer to actively engage and support the use of hormone drug products with men that don't have a substantial muscle base built. IMHO, we have let things slide way too far here and it is time to batten down the hatches a bit. I realize it is hard for you not to view this as a personal attack, but we are both internet strangers, we have never met, and it really isn't or can't be personal bro.
Sorry bro. You don't have enough muscle on to warrant steroids. Some of the vets here are beginning to take a harder line with requests like yours, myself included. I'm also 5' 9" but I'm sitting at 265. I just turned 39.
https://www.eroids.com/forum/steroids-qa/steroid-cycles/time-for-a-reali...
Yeah that's def what I didn't want to hear! I'm going to run a cycle so any help on my cycle options would really be helpful.
That's not how this site works. Nobody here is going to give you cycle advice or cosign your cycle because you don't have enough of a base built to run a cycle. I pointed you to the right section, the diet clinic, and you chose to ignore that.
A couple of basics.
1) By all means it's your first cycle.
2) there's no such thing as a lean bulk.
3) 19nors are for advanced cycles, don't even think of running them.
And this is not what you want to hear.
4) at 5'9" and 175lbs, even at 9% BF you haven't built enough of a base to warrant the use of steroids. You want to hit 190lbs, it can be done tweaking your diet.
https://www.eroids.com/forum/general/general-talk/diet-clinic-now-live