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need help on var and clen.

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I am running my 2nd cycle and would like some help. I am running a test e 750mls a wk and have the orange bd var 50s and some clen a friends gave me and would like to know if I should run the var at the beginning or end also is it best to pyramid with var? as for the clen I could go either way I dont care if I use it but im sure it would help with definition.

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well I have 3000 mg of the var I guess I will run it at 50 and see if I find my sweet spot I herd there pretty strong and I also keep forgetting I have the matrix test E and herd its pretty strong as well so I planned to run it at 500 a week. thanks ruski for your time.

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I wanted to run the var about 4 weeks in seeming how my last cycle about 4 to 5 weeks was when i really started feeling the test

ruski's picture

your at a pretty good bf for var. id run the var for 5-6 weeks. dose depends on you. some say dont run under 80-100. some say 50-60 fine for dudes. depends on your body. ive ran 100 and its been to much. but 80 seems to be a sweet spot. somebody else might curl up from 60ed. you gota get that test in check tho. 750 is A LOT for a second cycle. being that your bringing in the orals early, i def wouldnt go over 500w on a second cycle.

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I am 26 been lifting for 7 years on I have been dedicated for 5 diet and training. Im 6' my wait bounces between 180 and 190 is my winter weight my body fat is about 10% I will have some pics up soon im just on a business trip now. I know i sound like a puss but I don't want to much mass I like being ripped and vascular. my first and only cycle was test e my body responded well besides my back broke out real bad but no other sides. I gained about 15 pounds and kept it on I know I could have done it naturally but jumped the gun. I like seeing my abs and veins so I did a lot of research on var and would like to give it a go.

ruski's picture

there is no pyramid for var. put down the clen and give me your stats.