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Age: 38
Height: 5'5"
Weight: 145lbs
BF: 15%
Cycle History: 3 cycles overall. Last cycle was more than two years ago. 1st cycle Sust 250 ran 500mg-750mg, Test E 500mg 2 cycles
Diet: Super Clean. No Need to change what I eat other than caloric intake. As an example I eat like this anyway: https://www.eroids.com/forum/training-nutrition-diet/whats-for-dinner/pr....
I have 3 vials of Sust 250, 1 vial Tren E 200mg, Adrol 50mg, Dbol 50mg, Aromasin, and Clomid.
I went today to get my bloods done before starting the cycle... but every place I went to or called said I need a PHP to send the order. I am currently looking into an online option because I don't have a PHP. I have two old blood works from a year ago and the year before that.
All my cycles I have run without any problems.
My cycle so far would look like this.
1st week: Frontload 1000mg Sust 250
2nd week: Sust 250 500mg, Adrol 50mg, Dbol 50mg, Aromasin?mg? Clomid?mg? TUDCA, LIV 52, Milk Thistl
3rd week: Sust 250 500mg, Adrol 50mg, Dbol 50mg, Aromasin?mg? Clomid?mg? TUDCA, LIV 52, Milk Thistl
4th week: Sust 250 500mg, Adrol 50mg, Dbol 50mg, Aromasin?mg? Clomid?mg? TUDCA, LIV 52, Milk Thistl
5th week: Sust 250 500mg, Adrol 50mg, Dbol 50mg, Aromasin?mg? Clomid?mg? TUDCA, LIV 52, Milk Thistl
6th Week: Sust 250 500mg, Aromasin 12.5mg ED/EOD
7th Week: Tren E 200mg, Aromasin 12.5mg ED/EOD
8th Week: Tren E 200mg, Aromasin 12.5mg ED/EOD
9th Week: Tren E 200mg, Aromasin 12.5mg ED/EOD
10th Week: Tren E 200mg, Aromasin 12.5mg ED/EOD
11th Week: Tren E 200mg, Aromasin 12.5mg ED/EOD
12th Week: Tren E 200mg, Aromasin 12.5mg ED/EOD
2 weeks after last shot
PCT
1st Week: Clomid 100mg
2nd Week: Clomid: 100mg
3rd Week: Clomid: 50mg
4th Week: Clomid 50mg
On the 2nd week is where my questions start. (Now before I get roasted I am reading William Llewellyn’s,
ANABOLICS, looking at steroid profiles and reading forums. I have had 3 successful cycles now and I would like to start a stack.) I would like to try the Adrol Dbol combo as this post explains: https://www.eroids.com/forum/general/general-talk/i-did-the-unthinkable-... I'm asking about using clomid during the Adrol/Dbol part because of what this post stated and read the references.
I read in the forum that it is better to frontload the Test and then start the adrol/dbol on the second week. Also if I start the adrol/dbol on the second week should I lower the Sust 250 dose.
I am in the forums looking for help because I don't have any peers to ask. I could read the best I can and try to interpret things the best I can... or I can ask for help when I don't understand something. This is my first post. I have done alot of reading and understanding of what is required when making a post because people get roasted on their posts. This cycle is just a thot. I can change it, delete it, take advice, take criticism... I want to learn. I live in one part of the country but am visiting my kids in another part of the country and don't have access to a PHP in my home state to get bloods. If anyone knows of any online site to get bloods drawn without a doctor that would be great. Also I can do the research if no one wants to tell me what things I should ask for on my blood panel... But what things should I ask for on my blood panel.
Thanks in advance!
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Just Food lots of food
3 cycles deep and youre 145lbs why? dude you need to EAT more, idk where people get the idea that steroids will pack size on out of thin air.
TesTobolinI nice hardcore cycle of FOOD needed
EDIT::: These cycles youve ran and youre 145lbs?
What are you eating my friend seriously?
I've ran these cycles I've mentioned more than two years ago. I've mostly been focusing on work and family (had a new born) and haven't been working out. I started focusing on calisthenics and boxing since New year. I eat quite a bit. Mostly eggs, avocados, cucumbers, carrots, tuna steak, chicken, beef, turkey, not a lot of bread but some, some rice, fruits, vegetables, and meat in meals.
5'5@145 @15%bf after 3 cycles! Gtfoh!!! I call bs on this whole post..
No Need to change what I eat
Lmfao
Maybe I wasn't clear in my history. By cycle history these are cycles I've done before. My first cycle of Sust was done back in 2017. I had just started concrete and it was the hardest job I've done. I was probably around 34 years of age and wondering if maybe my test levels weren't what they used to be and decided some test was the answer after trying supplements like more protein and weight gainer. I took Sust and only did concrete work and gained 20lbs solid muscle that stayed until I started a different job after I moved. So to reiterate... I've started from scratch this year after having another child.
If ur real, post a pic. Show us a 145lb body that has maxed its full potential thru workout and food. Steroids are no good if ur not use to regular workout and diet.. If u are real I think that u probably eat once a day and hardly ever workout. I still think ur No Brono, Prove me wrong, post a pic. Time to flex.
I'll post a pic. I never stated that I'm the picture of men's health and fitness. But I am in shape. I'm almost 40, the test helps with mood, overall well-being, and packing on muscle. I'm waiting for my wife to get home so she can watch the kids while I go in the basement home gym and snap a pic. Give me an hour! Then take away you're down vote once I prove I'm real and not a troll. I'm asking questions cause I wanna learn bro. Thanks for responding at all though.
.... I never negged u, but I'd be glad to give u a point... Show us ur real, write ur name on paper and hold it... Then all of us can get down to business by taking u serious..
I posted my gear and pics of the results from 2017. I didn't realize I could only post one pic post a day. But I will post a pic of me holding up my user name. You may or may not know this but. i-fit4life.is used to be a source here on eroids.com apparently they went private from what the site tells me when i put them in for a vendor for gear on my pic. But thats how long i've been using aas for... just like i said in my post! I'm sure there are other people on this post that remember that source as well. Like I said. i've only done test... I wanted to start a stack. I was just looking for help on how to build one. So i got all the stuff that i thought i might need and did research and asked questions because i never built a stack before and tried to copy what i saw even though i realize how ridiculous that sounds. I tried so people wouldn't say do your own work or research or you didn't even try. But what i get is that anyway. smh
Take out the source name bro. It's against the rules
Bigun2He can’t now that you’ve replied to his post lol.
Oops
Same here!
I didn’t read past the 5’5” and 145lbs and the cycle history. If you’re not above 170, even at your height, after 750mg of fucking sus, you need to fucking learn to eat
Maybe I wasn't clear in my history. By cycle history these are cycles I've done before. My first cycle of Sust was done back in 2017. I had just started concrete and it was the hardest job I've done. I was probably around 34 years of age and wondering if maybe my test levels weren't what they used to be and decided some test was the answer after trying supplements like more protein and weight gainer. I took Sust and only did concrete work and gained 20lbs solid muscle that stayed until I started a different job after I moved. So to reiterate... I've started from scratch this year after having another child.
Bigun2Anything under 200 lbs is a fucking woman.
Well after I this cycle that I do my research on and figure it out myself like I thought I'd have to... I'll show you all before and after pictures that'll put some of the people on here to shame. The most I've weighed after 3 years in prison was 175 solid. But that was natural..
Bigun2If you really want to impress us cycle 5-7 meals of manipulated macros for 8-12 weeks and then holla back. Hard work and discipline gets respect around here. Any other way gets you laughed at and shown the door.
I like balls
Matzah, or Hairy?
Big balls, like ACDC.
Rustyhooker^^^^^^^
I'm a chick then!
AnonChick with a pickle!
My frame, bone structure, health, all kinds of shit, doesnt really allow me to get much above 190.
PSA, for every 50lbs you lose, your penis appears to be a 1/2" longer.
AnonMy dick definitely bigger when I'm cut up..facts.
Are you a runner? I can't remember if that's what you said you were into or if it was someone else
I'm a runner, not what I used to be though.
AnonHave you thought about using....STEROIDS...
Only when I'm chocking your bitch! Lol
AnonLmfao! Be gentle, she's with child.
A tren baby too...
If it's a girl, Trinity perhaps???
What are steroids
Bigun2Those are illegal. Drugs are bad, mmkayy.
So if my wife is 201 is she considered a tranny?
Nope just a straight out DUDE!
Just what I suspected.
I give some space to short guys, I’ve met Shaun Clarida, dude is legit 5’2”-5’3” and 180-190 on stage, but looks incredible
Rustyhooker180 on stage....ya....which means 210 off season. Huge difference in mass of 180 at 15% and 3%. Midget powered!
I'm with you on the short guys, a friend of mine is a competitor in natty events. He is 5-6 and off season walks around at 185-190. After his 16 week cut/show prep, he hits the stage around 155lbs. Looks like a greek god.
Rustyhookertroll got yall going.
Since: Apr 7th, 2016
Last: Apr 1st, 2021
I'm not a troll. You'll see after I make my source review, get my blood work I'm having trouble with and post before and after pics. But hey what did I expect posting on a toxic forum... Trying to follow rules, read as many parts as my adhd would allow and read a book, some medical studies, and looked at websites. Ya big troll here guys!
Bigun2Are.. are you.. are you crying, Bruno..?
Shit good catch rusty, forgot the day
Bigun2Another “close your eyes, reach your hands into the bags of pills and take a handful of all of it” cycle. Brilliant!
If you looked at some of the posts that I posted in this post you'll see that the stuff I ordered was built on the stuff I've read from you guys with high karma. Smh I even said I am open to changing the cycle up or just doing straight Sust. I have never done Tren and wanted to try it. The dbol/adrol was from a post that had high karma I wanted additional info from it before I implemented anything that I was unfamiliar with... But like I thought was going to happen nothing except toxicity when all in trying to do is learn and what I do not understand after reading all questions about. Guess that is too much!
Bigun2First off, come off your feels. None of this is personal; I’m just some dude on the internet. Why does anything I say have any effect on your mental state? Who the fuck am I? If you don’t like my help or what that looks like tell me to fuck off and it can be a day.
Second, if you actually want help you’re going about it backwards. Post up your diet and training regimen if you want ppl to help you with constructive criticism. The steroids are a really small piece to the equation and they come at the very end. Work on your diet and exercises. Get to know folks. Then see what happens. We just see 100 dumbass posts everyday about Tren this or multiple orals that. It gets old so perhaps we as a group of meat heads aren’t as patient as we could be. You’ll be aight.
AnonYikes.. Ok so with those stats maybe just a simple test cycle and instead of so much focus on gear why not focus on your lifting routine?
Do you have a SERM on hand?
Don't run the tren for fucks sake..
Adrol can trigger gyno at the breast tissue and only a serm will stop that. Same with DBol, that turns into methylestradiol and arimidex/aromasin won't stop.
Adrol/dbol combo is a bad idea at your level, you could have a massive BP issue or just be so damn bloated you get nothing done lol
You need to learn how to combat sides as they pop up before doing crazy stuff like that. Especially with tren... That is a beast of fuckery.
Don't front load sust in my opinion... It's got short esters in it already and you should clearly be focused on the gym and the kitchen, not the lab. You're going to see fantastic results if you nail the diet/exercise portion while on sust 500/week or so.
The whole array of stuff you have on hand isn't planned out very well in my opinion.
I'd rather see test cyp 500/week for 10-12 weeks accompanied by blood work mid cycle to figure out your AI dosage.
You're on the right path sort of, just keep reading, it's not a race and you are playing with your health, so take your time.
Use the search feature on here to find where people get private blood work done, there's a lot of info already on here
Tbone thanks man I wish I could upvote this a thousand times. This is the advice I was looking for. I have three bottles of Sust. I can just run my first cycle with two bottles of Sust. I have Aromasin on hand and Clomid. I was reading how Aromasin wouldn't work with the Adrol/dbol sides. Does Clomid work? I have done just a Sust only cycle before. Do you think I could implement dbol or adrol this cycle? Im going to get blood work. My cycle history I've posted is the experience or lack of experience I've had with aas. My last cycle was two years ago. The stuff I have on hand is just for what I thought I needed or wanted... For when I could get good advice on building a cycle. Moving forward is there something I could do differently to not get down voted for asking questions. I said in the post I'm open to learning, and changing my cycle and just running Sust if that is what is recommended. I'm going to show everyone just because I have the stuff doesn't mean I need to incorporate it. I'm just going to run Sust only. Take advice and learn. I thought I may be ready to start a stack.. but I can take advice and criticism and chance things up. Thank you.
AnonJust take everyone's advice as that, advice. You definitely need to do more research and you should really only use test E or C for a cycle right now because short esters in the sust will make getting a good read on your estrogen mid way more difficult. Just treat it as your first cycle.
The reason you're catching so much flak here is because you've not spent 10 years working out and crushing it.
But the way I see it is you're what, 38?
Run a safe cycle with only drug, you're not 16, so don't do anything reckless ok? Steroids aren't safe by any means and technically yes you should reach your genetic potential first. Ditch the tren/dbol/adrol and be safe. There's my advice since we all know you're going to pin that stuff anyway..
Be cautious, you have a kid. You owe it to your family to be digging in the search bar here to stay healthy.
No I wouldn't use clomid to combat the orals btw....torem or nolvadex. Arimidex and nolvadex together have bad effect and it reduces the serum level of adex by like 20 something %.
See, there's just so much to learn man, you can't be spoon fed. It takes years to get an initial grasp.