Need advice on this cycle please
Hello everyone,
I am new to this forum and is actually my first steroids forum that I've joined. Recently I've been interested in using anabolics and building a better body.
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Before I dive in, let me tell you a little background information. I used to train Muay Thai, Judo and Jiu-Jitsu before in my country, pretty much MMA training. Two years ago, at a MMA tournament, I was daft enough to not follow my fight plans resulting in getting thrown to the ground whilst dislocating my shoulder, that was 2 years ago and is still not fully healed. Also, last year I had been shot at a bar fight, bullet strucked my hip but only damaging my muscles, I wasn't able to raise my leg up properly due to some muscle damage. I have ever since can not do full on training and struggle alot from my shoulder wound. I use to weight 75kg and now I have been bulking up to get to 100kg+ and now considering to cut and lean out but want to stay at about 100kg.
my first cycle consist of T-prop, 1ml EOD to 1.5ml when training. I had stop it due to the annoying afterpain from injecting it. I am now considering this new plans for my anabolics:
2ml Test-Cypionate per week
1ml Equipoise per week
1ml Winstrol EOD
Oral anabolics has no affects on me somehow so injections seemed to work better
My question is, is this a good cycle for the first few weeks and so is there any other things I need to do on my cycle later on? add anything or lower anything? All comments is gratefully appreciated.
Thanks guys!
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AnonSo
Your cycle experience is pretty much zero
So you ran a little prop and decided to stop due to pip
You need to stickk with just test for your next cycle as well
So., with your injuries what is your routine gonna be like how are yhey gonna effect the way you workout? you need to be able to get the most from this cycle.. or are you healed?
hows the diet
U have got to be kidding me
What's wrong?
Sorry but I still don't think you have any idea what your doing. You say you just going to run the test cyp for a "while". No set plan for ai pct plan is a mess. This thread is a mess and I'm confused. I think you need to do a lot more research and show a bit more knowledge of the entire cycle. Starting with what compounds you will use, how much and for how long. What are going to use as an ai and your pct. If you can do that you will get a lot more feed back and help and therefore will get far better results. You have came to the right place for what you are looking for. Now use it.
Check out the last reply to this thread. Looks like he is do in his research to me
http://www.eroids.com/forum/steroids-qa/steroid-cycles/first-time-cycle-...
Yep saw that after I posted that. But I would still like to see his plan. That's why I left that up. You and I both know that these are powerful drugs and you can really screw yourself up in a hurry if they are used improperly. I don't usually give cycle advice because I myself am new to this but I also am not going to ignore this guy either. Just want to make sure what his plan is is safe. I in no way was taking a shot at you or anyone else in this thread but you have to admit it's all over the place.
I think your right. But he last said that he was off to do research to improve his knowledge as he now knows he was told a bunch of crap from his mate/other forums. I would like to see the op come back with a proposed cycle when he's ready. It looks all a bit messy because the cycle was such a state to start with.
It's good that your not letting it go though. Hopefully he will give us something to work with again soon.
Ok guys, so I've read alittle more and discussed with a bodybuilder coach. I've drop every thing except for the Test-Cyp and will continue this test-only cycle for awhile. Thank you every body for all your inputs, much much appreciated
AnonOh i see now
Dont forget about pre, mid and post cycle labs. You need to have an aromatase inhibitor on hand. Nolvadex decreases IGF-1, which in your case, if you decide to use 20mg beginning week one, could have adverse reactions on your tendons. In addition, you need to research the standard PCT of Nolvadex and Clomid and know how to administer the two drugs correctly. I dont know if your body type is ectomorph or mesomorph, but by determining this you can tailor a three day compound workout regimen and diet macros to meet your goals more efficiently. Cardio, a lean diet, minimal weight with moderate reps, daily weights and checking your BF% every 4-6 weeks will be a good positive starting point.
Thank you so much, I'm noting all of this down. I can get gears very easily here and got almost everything in hand ready.
You need to have everything on hand before you start. Especially your pct. If something happens and you need to get off cycle asap what are you gonna do if your source falls through. I know right now you can get stuff easily but shit can change and in 2 months that source might be gone. Before you do your first injection you should have all your gear, ai and pct in hand.
So, are you using centimeters and kilograms in your stats? Do you know what your body fat% is?
Gsxr.... your right.... Post was rather scattered.... In a rush.... disregard.... I will be more detailed with better direction when I get time.
No worries. Hit the reply button to reply to a person mate. Otherwise it makes the forum look a bit random
Hopefully this helps
You always want a base test. I prefer enanthate. Just keep it in your system. I agree with the above post "keep it simple". Esters like eq. Win. And deca. All have long half lives and you get a snowball effect. These compounds shouldn't be limited to a short time window. Remember overloading usually causes estrogen spikes.. Orals.... try methyltest (dbol). Usually in smaller doses to prevent aromatization. 15-25mgs X 3 days a week in addition to your current gear. But eq with dbol that's counterproductive I think.
What are you actually advising him to do? Some of this doesn't make sense and we don't want to confuse this guy
So you quit your Test Prop cycle due to PIP?
Did I read that correct? Not trying to make fun out of you just curious lol
Equipoise @ 250-300/week is a waste & running such of long ester compound for 10 weeks only is also a bad idea. Keep your shit simple homie, what if you start getting annoying after injection pain from Winny or Equipoise??? Will you drop it again?
Ok, Thank you for your advice, I could handle the pain but it just gets annoying especially from pinning EOD, and somehow the pain lasts about 3-4 days (Injected correctly by a friend who's been pinning for many years), and the friend told me that Cyp and Winstrol and EQ hurts lesser so wanted to try it out but before that I just wanted some advice that's why I came here.
Thanks buddy
How long since you finished pct? What was your pct?
No mention of ai's or pct in your post. What's the plan with these?
Forget about the eq and winny right now, you haven't completed a test only cycle so let's get that right first.
Come back with a plan to run a simple test e or c plan including your pct and ai.
Diet will dictate the goals your after, not additional chemicals.
Plus state mg you intend to use not ml. Test e can be dosed from 250mg to 500mg per ml so your by saying 2ml your not telling us much. Cheers
Hello GSXR,
Yes, I forgot to mention the PCT plan, I was planning of taking Nolvadex first and clomid after here's the full plan I was thinking about (sorry for posting alittle vague!):
Week 1-10
500mg (2ml) Test-Cyp per week
250mg (1ml) EQ per week
100mg (1ml) Winstrol EOD
Week 1-15
Nolvadex 20mg ED
Week 15-18
Clomid 100-150mg ED
These are what I had in mind after some researches and advice from friends who have been juicing too.
My diets are solid, Shakes with oats & Banana in the morning, Grilled chicken breast or fish 3 times a day plus veggies and some potatoes and another shake in the afternoon when training.
What I meant for the oral anabolics was that I didn't want them to affect my liver as much and I have problems with pills intake, sorry by the way for not clarifying what doesn't work for me means.
And to tell you straight up, I'm not sure what you mean by ai?
Thanks buddy
Ok, eq at 1ml (assuming that's 300mg/ml) for 10 weeks is pointless. It's not enough to do much and it's going to kick in about week 9! I haven't used winny but I strongly suggest you forget about that for now. I thought it was water based and needed to be injected ed?
You need to look up a simple test only cycle (beginner cycle), how to run a pct and aromatisation inhibitors. There is so much wrong here it appears that you haven't done anywhere near enough research before posting this up and we don't spoon feed the lazy. So at least read the stickies at the top of the forum and come back with a cycle we can work with.
You've come to the right place to get advise as you cycle posted is complete rubbish. Let's get you sorted out. Do some reading and come back to me
Ok, I'll do some more research to it but this cycle was a combination of research on recommended cycles and advice from a friend who has been on and off cycles for almost 10 years so I trusted him but that is also the other reason why I posted here, to actually learn more before I start pinning myself to stuff that is pointless.
Afterall, I now learned that there is alot of bullshit on the internet. Atleast I'm happy that I found this forum and propably will teach me alot more.
Thanks buddy
Ps, just interested to know how you know oral steroids don't work for you? You haven't stated that you use them