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Need advice on ECA and Deca / Test Stack

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Hey people. I'm on week 6 of Deca 400 / Test 600 every week. I'm starting week two of Dbol @ 40 ED.
Thing is my bulk started getting dirty so I enlisted the help of ECA 25/200; keeping it kinda low. Later planning to go up to 37.5/200.
Would this along with cardio five days per week, and muscle building 4 days per week, and a diet consisting of tuna, chicken, apples, brocoli, spinach, green tea, and water, go together well?
Lots of tuna, chicken, and apples!!!

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I wasn't going to use ai unless i stayed to feel gyno via estrogen or prolactin, but a buddy recommended it for the water retention and bloat. Now i do five days on, give days off at:
Letro .25cc @ 2.5mg/ml
Pramipexole .5cc
My diet its okay except for sodium and carbs. I had been greeting too many carbs in my diet.
I wanted to try chicken, tuna, broccoli, and apples for my diet.
Right now:
1st meal-two scoop whey +80grams rolled oats
2nd- chicken with broccoli and bell peppers with whole grain or brown rice
3rd-sandwich or sushi
4th-NO
Gym
5th-two scoops whey and white rice with a little chicken
6-milk and casien

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ok, watch those things, but try this: eat your 200g carbs or whatever all before 2pm. That way you will burn them off and not store any. Unless you take in simple sugars POST w/o.

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Bro, i have a huge question!
For the first time ever, i injected my left quad. I had tried in the past, but i would hit nerves. So Tuesday i went through with it. 1.2cc total, and my leg has been killing me! I checked for abscess, couldn't find any. Not red. Swollen and sore, yes! The muscle feels stiff, hard, and pretty big. I checked my temperature, 98.6.
Is this just virgin muscle?

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white size needle? Here is my routine. I down sized my quad pins to 1'' and smaller gauge than I use for glutes. I had PIP at first too. Now I draw the oil from the bottle then switch to new pin. I warm the syringe with a heating pad, put the syringe in and fold the pad over it. Let it warm up til you can feel the syringe is warm, then pin the outer quad, go very slow pushing in the oil, leave the syringe in for 5-10 sec after all is pushed in, then pull out. MASSAGE that area. Do the pins in the morning that way you will not get stiff and oil will circulate throughout the day. That greatly helped for me. I only pin an area 1x a week. I rotate between both glutes and both quads. let me know if that helps. also check out the forums on pinning. there maybe additional info that may work for you also.

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1" 23g
I definitely need to try warming. I've read that a lot, but never tried. Might the test e have a lot of ba also that may be bothering me?
I think the 1.2cc may have been too much gear for virgin muscle.

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Thanks bro!
I'm gonna try this!
I'm trying to put on a lot of lean mass.

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You may just be retaining a ton of water because DECA and DBol will do that. What's your AI protocol? What was your diet up to this point?

I agree with below - another compound isn't the answer here.

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Using ECA contradicts the aas you are using. It looks like your trying to bulk, in that case stay away from ECA. That will suppress your appetite and raise your BP which will already be higher with your gear. Keep the light cardio and diet clean is your best bet. IMO i'd stay away from the ECA. that's more often used to cut appetite and cut up. You mention bulk getting dirty thats why you need the ECA. If that means eating junk, then clean it up, reboot and stay clean. you don't need ECA, just a little MOTIVATION. Good luck I've been there adding an additional gear or more pills is not the safe way.

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Catalyst's picture

Good advice right there, +1 www.

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thanks man

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