posted Sat, 06/16/2012 - 10:24
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Need advice for Dbol/test e PCT
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Hi, i'm currently planning my first cycle..
some info : 23 yo.. 6 ft, been training hard since 17, started at 140.. now stuck between 180-185, 12bf%. Hitted 200 last year but it was mainly fat, didnt pack anymore muscle.
Heres the cycle im planning :
Dbol, week 1-4 @ 20mg ED
Test E, week 1-12 @ 500mg (2x250mg/w)
PCT :
nolva 20/20/20/20
clomid 100/100/50/50
Now, should I get some liquidex in case of gyno during my cycle? if so, at what dosage? Is the PCT ok?
Thank you for any advice!
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Listen to Viking. Drop the Dbol.I would run the nolva 40/40/20/20. Get arimidex or aromisin. Oh and your not eating enough. 2200 calories for a 6 foot guy sounds low to me. Also I would edit your page and change Hitted to Hit.
zewiMake sure your read all the post some good info here. 1-Drop D-bol on your first cycle (don’t worry it won’t go bad--get that Test E only cycle down first) Change you PCT nolva 40/40/20/20 like Finafan said.
Also get a good diet plan in place before you start. Like I always say to people that are having a hard time with a Diet and don’t know what to eat do some reading.. But you can never go wrong with Chicken, Chicken, Chicken----
Keep reading keep asking question listen to what everyone is saying. Get a diet and plan—Your goal should always be keep your body healthy first, and you can do that even on gear, if you do it right.
Good advice points for you
keep the good info coming.
zewithankx Suzy B i try..
I agree he should be aiming for 3500/4000 even in a maintenance phase with those stats,and reading about his last gains it sounds like they were from carbs and rubbish,more high quality protein needed to give a more more solid gaining curve and a chance at keeping some after cycle.
isnt liquidex/arimidex a mild like version of letro??
AnonYes they are all AI's include Aromasin into the mess also. Difference is the strength. Letro is the strongest AI and should always be something every user has in his stash. Just in case you start getting bitch tits. I guess some guys are willing to risks getting breasts. It's just something that I never want to get. Call me old fashioned:-)
AnonListen to what the guys are saying about the dbol. Even though 20mg is a low dose it makes you feel great at first but it will also load you up with water and make staying lean, harder than it needs to be. A first cycle really is about introducing exogenous Test to your system and learning the side effects. Do you get hi BP, acne, agrression, depression. All these things can pop up in a first cycle and knowing exactly what is causing it can make it easier to fix. If you are running multiple compounds you won't be positive what is causing it. Not only the negative side effects but you want to get the most out of the Test and establish a bit of a baseline before you go adding compounds to the mix. Get to know your body first and then slowly expand the arsenal.
I would get some Letro and HCG along with adex or aromasin. It is key to have all of the tools at your disposal just in case. Better to be safe than sorry!
I already have a bottle of 60 tabs/10mg of dBol. Diet is on check.. will put on about 1.5k more cals than maintenance, which is 2.2k)
Training will be a 2 day split (upper, lower), training 4x week with big compound lift. Thats how my body respond the best. 4 day split aint my thing.
AnonYeah bro save dbols for maybe you third cycle or maybe your second but really your third be better. But yeah all test is best for first few cycles bro. Hey, viking knows his shit as you can see he is pro. Look at the guys body. Lol he knows his shit so if anything take his advice
IMO being your first cycle i would drop the d/bol so you fully feel and learn the effects of the test e bro.. pct looks ok and get the adex on hand just in case you notice any effects that you list,you probably wont at that low dose but best to be safe than sorry.
You mention nothing about your diet or training,could you fill us in with a little more info re/this so best gains can be assured.