posted Tue, 03/26/2013 - 09:39
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Hello everybody. I had a question that I'm sure many of you will be able to quickly answer. Im currently on a Mdrol cycle that I will be on for 4 weeks total. This is aprox my 5th or 6th pro hormone cycle and finally getting ahold of some test, deca, dbol. How long should I wait after the Mdrol cycle is over to start the new gear? This will be my first run with this type of gear. Thanks for all the help
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Thank you guys so much for the advice! This is.exactly what I needed to know. Since im already taking the mdrol(stacked with trenazone) I will go ahead and finish this cycle. About a little more than a week into itso kinda to late to stop now. Then 8 weeks after pct I will run the test only. Im sure I will be more than impressed with that. But now I wonder, what do you guys consider to be the best way to store the gear that im holding on to for the future?
Wise decision to stick with test e for your first AAS cycle. You will be amazed how much better you feel using test compared to PH's. I store my gear in a small tackle box and put it in the closet.
Time on + PCT = time off. You need a minimum of at least 8 weeks off. I would highly recommend that you do NOT run all of those compounds for your first AAS cycle. Start off with the beginners cycle of test e as others have mentioned. By taking all those compounds your first cycle you will not know what is causing the adverse sides if any develop.
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The general rule for running an AAS cycle is:
Now, lets say you choose to indulge in a 12 week cycle, which carries a 4 week PCT, thus the total time frame where your hormone levels will be abnormal in comparison to prior natural levels is 16 weeks. Additionally, supposing that you chose against acquiring blood results, this will result in a 16 week 'time off' period. Thus, the total time frame for a single cycle to commence and be finalised is 32 weeks.
Therefore, following the aforementioned key points, on the basis of a 52 week year, one can indulge in (52/32=) 1.625 cycles a year. In Layman's terms, you can run 1 cycle completely (this includes time on + PCT + time off) + (5/8 =) 0.625 cycles. This means you can run one complete cycle (this includes: Time ON + PCT = Time off) plus another 12 week steroid cycle + 4 weeks PCT + 4 weeks time off (32*0.625) in a single year, with a remaining 12 weeks of time off period to be carried forward into the next year - (2 complete AAS cycles = [32 weeks +32 weeks] 64 weeks, -52 weeks (equal to 1 year) = 12 weeks to be carried forward).
With regard to hormone levels, following the 1.625 cycles a year, you are likely to be fine. Of course, people find that after single cycle with PCT and time off, their levels return close to natural, much in the same way in which another person may find that they will be completely reliant upon TRT/HRT after their first cycle. What i have tried to illustrate here is that everybody is different - and the assumption that the time off period will, in most cases, return an individual to 'normal' hormonal levels.
I agree with monsteronjuice ... save your orals for another run.. I myself have just used orals for the first time ever and I am old... all you need is a good test E.. test C and AI... then proper PCT but if you already started the make sure you wait to start your next cycle so your boys will bounce back and produce natty again.. good luck ... I found this post that you should read to give you some different prospective on things.. now remember this was not directed to your question but it has great information in it for a beginner..
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I will start off by sharing my opinions on your proposed cycle before i recommend one;
- For a first cycle, pinning ED or EOD is a big leap (since prop is a shorter estered variant of test e/c - thus the half life is also shorter) since you have never injected before. Thus my advice would be to start pinning a long estered compound like test e/c where you pin only 2 times a week as opposed to 3-7 with prop, depending on your pinning protocol. Now pinning 2 times a week will help you perfect your pinning technique while also helping you get used to site rotation and selection.
- Secondly, tamoxifen by itself is not an adequate PCT. Here's an extract from a valuable forum post - "Clomid and Nolvadex are both anti-estrogens belonging to the same group of triphenylethylene compounds. They are structurally in the same family and specifically classified as selective estrogen receptor modulators (SERMs) they act in two ways. One is by changing up the binding capacity of the receptor, then in others they can actually act as estrogen, activating the receptor. In men, both of these drugs act as anti-estrogens in their capacity to oppose the negative feedback of estrogens on the hypothalamus and stimulate the release of GnRH (Gonadotropin Releasing Hormone). LH output by the pituitary will be increased as a result, which in turn can increase the level of testosterone produced at the testes. That's a quick summary of why we use both Clomid and Nolvadex on a PCT. The dose has been wildly played with over the years and guys have figured out that a dose of 100/100/50/50 of clomid and 40/40/20/20 of Nolvadex has proven to work very well."
"Well, Aromatase Inhibitors come in 2 types. Type 1 and Type 2. First Type 1 AI's bind by a process called hydroxylation; this hydroxylation process produces an unbreakable covalent bond between the inhibitor and the enzyme protein. Now the enzyme is permanently blocked even after all of the inhibitor is removed and can only be resumed by new enzyme synthesis. Type 2 Inhibitors on the other hand function all the same in their ability to reduce the binding process of the enzyme and the receptor. Except once the drug is discontinued or the concentration of the drug is sparse enough it is possible for the enzyme to seperate itself from the Inhibitor and eventually will allow renewed competion between the Inhibitor and the Enzyme for the receptor site." PCT and Aromasin
Recommendations
- Head over to the groups section, join the beginners cycles group and have a look at the cycle options there.
- If you need step-by-step guides on pinning (with pictures) then click on my profile and look at my forum posts, there are many sites you can select from.
Great info!
Nice - you took the words right out of my mouth lol.
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lol... got to go with the pros...
To the OP, head on over to the groups section and join the beginners cycle group - lots more useful information there.
Also check out - Pre-Cycle Protocol
I know they stopped making mdrol and it can be quit pricey. I would honesetly save it for later down the road when you are more advanced. Throwing mdrol in at lower doses with a good aas cycle can do wonders then running the compound alone at the higher dosages they recomend. Test, eq, superdrol cycle might look good 4-5 cycles down the road and you be glad you saved it.
mdrol is basically oral masteron. Before you start any cycle I would get my bloods done, mdrol can do some nasty shit to your blood levels. Your first cycle should be test only. save other compound for later down the road. As far as time, you are running 4 week super drol, then running 4 week pct. so take 8 weeks off at least before even thinking of running test.