My second cycle, please I need your feedback
Hey guys,
So I have been weight lifting for 5 years now.
I wanna do my second cycle to reach my goal.
I have been back and forth to the gym because I got injuried.
My weight now is 86kg and my height is 174.
my body fat around 18%
I have a good size of muscles.
I have been reading a lot and educated my self before I take this step, and I’m really good with nutrition and everything else.
But I will definitely need your experinces with cycles.
So I came up with this cycle so far.
Hgh- 4iu 5 days a week. 1-12
Test E 500mg weekly 1-8 weeks
Mast 100 400mg weekly 1-8 weeks
Var 80mg 5 daily 1-12
Clomid 25mg Daily 1-16
Proviron 25mg Daily 1-16
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My PCT will be for 5 weeks
Clomid will be incresed to 100mg daily
Proviron stays the same from the begging of the cycle 25mg daily until the end.
Nolva 40mg daily 1-4 weeks
Anastrazole 1mg daily 1-5 weeks
HCG 4500 iu first week
HCG 3500 iu second week
HCG 1500 third week
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This is my cycle, I’m ipen to any ideas, editing, and reviews
Also if there is a proper diet to do let me know.
Thank you so much for your help.
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Is this being used IN your actual PCT? Why?!?!
HCG 4500 iu first week
HCG 3500 iu second week
HCG 1500 third week
First off use your head from the info below. Secondly, 4500 iu's is too much imo. You may not have any issues with only 3 weeks on a higher dose now, but this is a bad practice which can ultimately lead to desensitization over time if you were to use higher doses of hcg over time. You can reap the benefits @ 1500 iu's per week for approx 4-6 weeks however, why would you use it in PCT? You are essentially mimicking LH which is one of the worst things you can do in PCT. Not to mention HCG will spike your estrogen which is the last thing you want to do in PCT! HCG does have its place albeit a small one on cycle.
2 weeks before last pin and 2 weeks during ester clearance to re-teach the body to stimulate the leydig cells via synthetic lh. Think what testosterone does on cycle? It mimics the effects of indigenous testosterone which shuts you down. Testosterone is produced in the testes and when it gets too high the body signals LH to stop being produced via the negative feedback loop. Why on earth would you go into PCT with hcg still mimicking natural functions???!!! This is not smart and shows a fundamental lack of knowledge important to your success in the long term.
As Makwa said test enanthate for 8 weeks??? You do see the problem correct? You're essentially stopping progress cutting your cycle 4 weeks short. Test is your base and should be run throughout. Especially if you're planning to run anavar for.....12 WEEKS!? Where sir have you gotten this information from? Oral steroids are hepatoxic. That means toxic to your liver as it makes it work overtime and produce more enzymes to try breaking down this substance. Not only that, but every organ will be affectedin some way which requires on cycle support and other ancillariesto combat these issues.
Sorry for the rant, i dont want you or anyone else getting hurt from misinformation. Be safe please.
Lots of funky stuff going on in this cycle. You need to understand these compounds a little better before running a cycle.
GH for 5 days/wk and only 3 months? Assume you are trying to save $. Do it right or don't do at all. Hitting 4iu at once will have you crying at CTS. What are your plans to ramp it up. By the time you get to your planned dose you will be halfway through cycle. See the problem here?
8 wk cycle with long esters? You don't see a problem here?
Mast and var? Assume you are doing a cutter. Just because these compounds are typically used during cutting cycles doesn't mean you are going to lose fat any quicker. These are polishing compounds used for people doing cuts into the low bodyfat % that can really take advantage of the look they provide. Starting at 18% body fat they are a waste. Your diet is going to lose the bodyfat, not the compounds. Drop the easy bodyfat first before cycling.
Var for 12wks.? You really think that is a good idea? Are you planning to get bloodwork throughout cycle to see if ALT/AST are getting out of whack?
Clomid and provi daily for 16 wks? Why??
Do you have issues with provi shutting you down?
You better figure that diet out before you even consider cycling.
This cycle is a mess. You have a lot of explaining to do to convince me this is an appropriate cycle for you to run.
Go back to the drawing board, unless you like wasting your money.
The way you have this set up you’re gonna crash your estro by the end of week 1. That’s gonna be fun.
Appreciate your reply bro.
Hgh-1-12 I hope you mean months on that
it is too expensive to go with it more than 3 months
Have you already bought it? If so you should consider alternating it with peptides to stretch it out. 3 months isn't nearly enough time to realize the full benefits of GH. However, if you were to do something like GH month one, peptides month 2, GH month three... Some type of rotation like that you could stretch the GH to six months (although you will only be using it for three) and still reap the benefits of highly elevated GH levels while using the peptides. They are much more cost effective than GH and I have had amazing results stacking CJC with GHRP-2. May be worth at least looking in to.
brick topwhat kind of results did you get from peptides? do you run it the whole year?
No, I do not run them year round. Typical results for me are increased quality of sleep, increased rate of fat loss, increased rate of nail growth, healthier, tighter skin... Basically the same results that you would expect from quality GH. I am planning on starting GH in the next month or so and probably rotating it with a CJC/GHRP-2 stack as I mentioned above. Not sure on exact dosage or how I will rotate the two though. I am still piecing together. Obviously I will not start until I have come to a final conclusion there.
If you can't do it right, it is not worth doing at all. Pretty much just wasting that money.
You’re not going to see much benefit from such a short GH run.
Anavar dose is too high and length is way too long...be smarter
Masteron isn't gonna help. Save it for later
Maybe proviron at 50mg a day for 8 weeks with test.
Listen to advice below
Ao what do u think if I do test and anavar 50mg, and proviron 50mg for 8 weeks?
Also what do u think about my PCT?
basskiller89Too many compounds brother. Test + an AI is more than enough here
Appreciate your reply, Can u tell me what dosage?
basskiller89You have to do more research brother, plenty of info on here, best of luck, I'm here if you have questions
Keep it more simple, your cycle is way to complex!
Test and maybe Provi (and for sure a good solid PCT) is all u need mate!
Appreciate your help bro, what do u think about my PCT? is it good enough?
Just because its a second cycle it doesn't mean you have to add all those extra compounds , at that rate whats your third and fourth cycle going to look like . If your diet and training is spot on you can get great results from test only as a second cycle , third cycle even a fourth cycle.
You are totally right, the thing is that I want to reach my goal with this cycle because I promised my self it will be my second and last cycle.
RustyhookerCycle is way too big sir. Youd be better looking at pulldowns...groups...first cycle explained.
Cutting to 12% first would make life easier too. The diet guys are better with that part.
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This is what I’m doing now, I won’t start my cycle until I’m down with my body fat. Appreciate your help brother