posted Tue, 09/01/2015 - 12:49
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My seccond cycle
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So this is going to be my seccond cycle, wondering what you think.
Test e @ 600mg wk 18 wk
Eq @ 600mg wk. 16wk
Dbol @ 30 ed 1-4wk
Along with my hcg and anastrozol. I have a pretty clean diet and I always stay on track. Anything else I should do or replace with. Thanks
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RustyhookerAgree with makwa. Saw your comment on other forum. Don't frontload. Eat eat eat
Yeah I am planning out my diet as we speak getting in those calories. I saw somewhere the Viking shake that consisted of 1600 calories will prolly cut that in half so I can take it one in morning and one post workout and still get my 6 meals to come out to 3000-3500. I feel like if I eat more than that I get a little pudgy. But if I don't il up it
RustyhookerSounds good.
I posted another cycle log and was wondering if you want to check it out. Just to see if it looks right to you or if I should add anything in your opinion just trying to see everyone's point of view
2nd cycle... I don't see why you need 3 different compounds and that much test. Just stick with 500mg test e wk and and incorporate some dbol if you want. You are going to have a brand new learning curve for your AI with using the dbol so stick with a test dose you are familiar with. If you need to start upping your test on just your second cycle to try and see results your doing something wrong in the diet and training dept.
My first cycle diet was pretty bad I feel like I have a way better mentality this time around and want to just shoot for the most gains I'm going to change how much test because it's a little accessive I agree
You'll be surprised at how much of a difference a good diet will make. Most important part of the whole cycle.
If I want to go for big lean gain what should my macros be at or what should I shoot for?
Depending on your current bodyfat... If it is under 10% I would shoot for 1,000 cals over your TDEE since your body will be primed for growth with better nutrient partitioning and insulin sensitivity. 10-12%BF I would go for 750 cals over maintenance and do a cyclic bulking routine. Essentially about a 4 week bulk and then a 1 week cut and repeat.
https://www.eroids.com/forum/general/general-talk/the-key-to-quality-mas...
Okay that gives me a great idea on how I should work my meals and where I should start I guess and then I wan always make changes due to how my body feels that was great info thanks!
second cycle, you already upped your test dose, now its one compound at a time, dbol, do ya test with dbol, but run the dbol for 6 weeks at 40mgs.
simple cycle, good gains, good well being.
eq next time.
Alright and for then next cycle il save that for eq and should I bring that into a 16 week? I hear that if you don't it's a big waste
yes, thats one of the issues with eq, it has to be ran for a longer duration, so on your second cycle, if you ran it, you would be looking at half the year if you include pct etc, 16 weeks is a good starting point, 600mgs being a decent low to moderate dose, it can also cause blood pressure issues, thick blood and ive even seen people posting on the internet getting clots, i personally had a bad run with it once, thick blood, high blood pressure, i was not healthy at that stage, i recommend mast over eq any day.
as for this cycle, is it pharma dbol? good quality? it makes a difference, pin your test m/w/f if you can tolerate the pinning, 250mgs 3 times a week, make sure you have your ai, dbol can bring gyno on quick, watch blood pressure, liver protector, prostate health and get bloods.
clomid/ nolva therapy 2 weeks after last pin, if you want to use your hcg, run it @ 500iu eod in the 2 week lag before pct.
The pinning doesn't bug me at all it's fairly easy to me. Would you sidgest the 600mg for eq because some people say 800 but most people say little to no differnce so il just stick it with the 600. And here is a stupid question should I be taking clomid and nolvadex both on my pct?
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Waste of EQ if you don't at least double that amount.
Why is that. Sorry just trying to figure more out than what I know.
What was the first cycle? Whats the length of proposed cycle?
First cycle was 10 weeks test e 500mg a week. And I plan on this one only being about 8 weeks.
Personally im with the other guys on this. Test e 500mg a week with d bol kicker. The eq is a waste of time at that dose and 8 weeks long. I wouldn't even up the dose. Being that its your second cycle you can still gain well on 500mg, 250mg more per week is not going to make any magic happen. Ive done some heavy doses and stacks before and most of the time it was just a waste of money with a lot of bad sides. I prefer a test p kicker instead of an oral for the simple fact that orals kill my appetite. Test is best my friend!
Edit: provion would be a nice addition too.
Whats ur macros and calories? And what would be ur goal for this cycle? I believe u should use test/dbol, test/provi..but thats my opinion...and i wanna wait to see ur goals.
My goal is to just bulk up as much as possible without getting too pudgy my first cycle went we'll with just test but my diet was bad. Ima clean this diet up and go for about 3000 calories and find a good even with my carbs. I'm not planning on stopping after this one so I want to just gain size and strength
200g carbs/d max...1.5-2.0g/lb of protein for body weight....120g/d of mufas/pufas...test/dbol per flash's advice above...dial down on carbs if getting to pudgy...2 gallons H2O daily and add proviron 25 - 50g/day start week 4, two weeks before quit dbol...run TUDCA, saw palmetto for liver/prostate as mentioned....
Also pre, mid and post cycle labs..