My P-Mag cycle
Hello my friends , this is gonna be my first cycle so I am looking for some feedback about it!
I am 24yrs old , 1.80 height and I weight 79kg. Arround 14% BF. (Might be a bit less or more ,it's just an estimate)
So starting with 2 weeks before P-mag i'll be taking 2 times a day 4 caps of Cycle Assist (CEL) (Thats 4 caps in the morning and 4 caps in the post workout meal arround 10hours later)
Along with Now Foods, C-1000 2 times a day 1 cap
Now Foods Omega-3 2 times a day 3 caps
Now Foods, ADAM, Superior Men's Multi, 2caps in the morning
I've been using creatine monohydrate before the cycle and i was thinking of keeping it till I start P-mag , stop it during the cycle and use it again in the PCT to "protect" my gains.
Same goes for the pre workout supplement (DS Craze). **Need some Feedback on that thought !
Starting the Cycle!!
CEL P-mag 50/75/75/75/75/75 Morning & Pre workout when 2 caps , Morning , Lunch , Pre workout when 3 caps
I got some Taurine which I will be using in case of back pumps (~5gr)
PCT
CEL PCT Assist 2times a day 2 caps Morning and after workout (8hours or so later)
AI D-Aspartic Acid Powder 3gr / day
Creatine 5gr
DS Craze
Since my goal is to Bulk while staying lean or even getting down some % of bf I am gonna keep a medium calorie diet.
Breakfast:
Protein pancacke
100g oats
200g Egg white
1 Whole Egg
1 Banana
Couple of raisins
Meal 1
150g Chicken breast
100g brown rice
1tsp olive oil
green veggies
Meal 2
150g Chicken breast
100g brown rice
1tsp olive oil
green veggies
Workout
Protein shake
30g protein
20g dextrose
20g malto
1 banana
Meal 3
150g Chicken breast
100g brown rice
1tsp olive oil
Meal 4
Low fat cottage cheese 200g
peanut butter , almonds, walnuts , flax seeds 15-20g
I'll be changing chicken to tuna or beef once in a while. (1 can of tuna ~140g or 1 home made beef burger ~150g)
Also I will be changing brown rice to sweet potatoes or normal potatoes ~400g
I was thinking I could add 1 or 2 more shakes a day.Maybe 1 Protein shake before breakfast and another before workout with a banana for extra energy for the workout.
or maybe I could even do a oatmeal/protein shake somewhere in the day to bump up the calories a bit.
Without the extra shakes I am at Totals Calories 3,176 Carbs375 Fat63 Protein 215
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It really does trouble me why you all guys are so against ph ! From what I've read it's the safest beginners cycle with nearly no side effects other than the back pumps and maybe some little things at PCT. Thats a conclusion I've gotten to after reading like 10-15 logs of this exact cycle. Till now the only thing i was worried was missing Nolva but now you made me very sceptical. Also i've had a friend finishing that cycle half a year ago and his post cycle blood work was just fine ! Anyways , going back to the PCT issue , looking @ HGH/Peptide sources I've found gymchemist which is the site I had in mind before so I guess i am gonna go ahead and order a box of Nolva from that !
Cleyon"Fine" Is one of those words that makes me scratch my head. It could mean anything from "perfect" to "liver values were high, but not too bad". The problem I have with PH is that they are advertised to have the same anabolic effects as steroids, but funnily you don't ever hear about all the ball players using them. Why? My guess is that they don't work as advertised.
From what I've read pro-hormones are 5-15% as effective as AAS. Add to it that anything that you are swollowing has to go through your liver. Therefor the risk of liver damage is much more prominent with pro-hormones than the majority of steroids.
Here's the thought process that made me chose what I did.
Hell yeah!! Fuck livers and kidneys!!
Just playin dude.
Seriously though, man up and grab a syringe. Testosterone is the way to go. Stick around, read all the stickies here, click every tab up there in the heading. Have fun.
WithdrawlLook under HGH/Peptide sources on this site and you'll find legit sources for Nolvadex. You MUST use it, along with clomid preferably. Your over the counter PCT product is not sufficient. I'm also going to agree with everyone else and say prohormones are awful. I've been a long time steroid user with no past issues and I did one cycle of pro hormones a year ago and had so many side effects, including terrible liver stress and a little gyno that was prolactin related. If you MUST use prohormones, at least do a proper PCT and have AI's on hand in case things go wrong with your estrogen levels.
Everything looks good except p-mag. pct is OTC Will not work very well if at all. Don't go for ph man. Ya you might blow up but you will regret it when your feeling like dog shit and liver values are trashed and your natty test gets trashed.
I don't understand why there is so much negative feedback :/ About the PCT without serms , those sites i linked they are good source for legit nolva?
Withdrawal has you pointed in the right direction for proper pct and that will be nolva at 40/40/20/20 and clomid at 100/100/50/50. Clomid helps restart lh which is what your body converts to testosterone and nolva will help the body control estrogen which they say p-mag doesn't aromatise or if it does very little but many people have had estro problems. Ph are usually steroids that never made it to the market because they were not safe and the cons outweighed the pros medically so now these companies release them for a quick buck. We are all just looking out for ya bud cuz most of us have traveled down that path and its a rocky path at that. Your on the most informative site on the net and a very resourceful site as well. If you decide to use enhancements then use the correct ones with correct counter measures and you will reach your goals safely. Good luck my man don't hesitate to ask any of us any question. Do your own research and we will help you fill in the gaps. Good luck.
Coming from someone who went down that route a couple years ago, it's truly not the way to go. I know you see all the great reviews online about people gaining 15 lbs in 6 weeks, and that got me too. It seems like a simple "pop a pill and get big" game. My Ast and Alt liver scores were off the charts months after my promagnon cycle. I'm still working at getting them in the normal range, and I took all CEL support products like you are planning. Not trying to preach, just want to make sure you realize the risk, because I didn't.
I've done my research and it seems like most of the people that do a proper cycle with support & a Good PCT have no problems at all. I've had 2 friends who tried it aswell and they were fine, both done blood exams before & after. What kind of worries me is that I can't get Nolvadex which would make my PCT 100% safe.That was the next thing i wanted to ask. I've found 2 sites from the sources on top which seem legit but I;ve never tried them my self..http://gymchemist.com/ and http://www.anaboliclabsuk.com/ . How good are those ?
CleyonWhy can't you get Nolvadex? I knew at least five places I can get it domestic.
No source or lab talk in the forum.
AnonP mag?
http://tunedsports.com/designer-steroids/the-promag-pmag-informative-bible/
Promag or as many know it “P-Mag”, is a popular designer anabolic steroid/pro-hormone, it was brought to market in December 2005 as Promagnon-25 by Peak Performance Labs, Promagnon-25 has since been discontinued and has gained popularity as affordable clones have become available such as Competitive Edge Labs P-Mag.The nomenclature of the p-mag compound is (4-Chloro-17a-Methyl-Andro-4-Ene-3,17b-Diol), for those who read our Halodrol Informative Bible, you’ll notice the nomenclature of p-mag is nearly identical to h-drol (or halodrol)
if you can't be arsed to read the whole article
Anonyou will most likely get zero advice on a prohormone cycle here, brother...
AnonRight... strictly juicers here hence the name eroids.....
I know nothin bout ph