posted Fri, 05/20/2016 - 18:02
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My next cycle
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Alright boys my next cycle is coming up in August I'm finishing up my current one then going into PCT blah blah blah . So I ran test E 300 x2 for 10 weeks then test p 150 eod for two weeks . I did alright put on some decent size etc etc I decided to go with such a basic cycle only because it's been about a year and half since I had taken anything. Now I still want to bulk I'm at 178 and want to obviously go into the 200s I'm not tall only 5'6 and bf is 10% . Should I do a deca/test stack next? If so how should I dose it ? ( I know everyone loves tren and eventually I'll get back to tren it just doesn't let me sleep)
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RustyhookerFinishing pct? So 12 weeks + 4pct = 16weeks til cycle.
Yessir which would put my next cycle as stated at about late August early sept ish.
On march the 28th when you joined these were your stats according to your profile:
Less than 2 months later, you're 28lbs heavier and 2% lower BF?
that bf was highly inaccurate I'm not sure what my starting bf was but I'm def thicker it hasn't been the cleanest bulk. This ones a little more accurate at 10.4 since I have "coach" I suppose we can call him that , ex bodybuilder. Yes yes why don't I go ask him about my cycles ? Simple the fact that he's old and back then it seems things were different he did a lot of damage cycling on and off whenever he felt like it no pct etc etc.... But either way I believe my starting bf was def lower I barely have anything close to abs left
Gearhead and I are old too ;)
You've side stepped my point, let me rephrase. 28lbs in two months equals 3lbs of, (almost all by your BF comments), muscle tissue per week of growth. Go lay out 3lbs of steak on your kitchen surface. You added that every week?
No way of course not, I believe I've put on a really really decent amount of fat and water . And hey there is nothing wrong with being old hell it only makes you wiser and smarter, but you guys are very educated on this and he isn't . He was the type to inject anything and everything. Didn't mean to offend by the old comment but this guys 78 given you would never think he's 78 .... I feel you guys maybe younger and not what I would consider old.
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Bro,
First and foremost, not everyone loves Tren. Second, it is a shitty bulking compound as you should already know. Second, there is nothing wrong with basic cycles. Please don't try to be a badass. Not with the old crowd like me. We're not impressed. Third, what actually is your cycle history? Finally, if you want to do a test / deca cycle, do some reading and propose the cycle and dosages and PCT. You think PCT is some kind of joke? Guess what bro, I'm now sterile. Want to join me?
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Brother I never said pct was a joke ever, not sure how I came off as if it was .... If I thought t was I wouldn't be about to start my nolva etc.... I always take pct and adequate recovery time this next cycle will be late August ish to give enough time to recover. Sorry that you're sterile tho. And as far as basic cycles it's not about being bad ass it's about trying to have some more gains than what I can get from just test. My cycle history involved EQ test tren winny clen sust. Now I was thinking of running test 500 a week and deca 300 a week . Pct being nolva 40 40 20 20. I'm not sure if that's sufficient for a stack cycle which is why I'm asking I really had no intentions of offending you or making you angry, and the reason I want to stack the test with the tren is to balance out the dreaded deca d***. And you're right not everyone loves tren , I don't love or hate it I get great results cutting on it but sleep becomes a distant memory.
Edit: I also do take AI eod once I start crashing till the end of the cycle Or bump it up etc. always on hand along with the pct
Bro,
I'm sorry, I pulled a muscle in my Quads in the squat rack today and I'm in pain and a really bad mood. I want you to do some of your own research, bro. All the info you need is on the website. The search tool is the magnifying glass on top. Read the stickies in the fora.
Your PCT is not adequate to recover from a 19-nor like Deca. The shutdown is hard. Real hard. Tren is not the best way to control Deca dick. Every heard of Tren dick??? LMAO. You might want to run a dopamine agonist (a DA) with deca. It's a consideration. Read about prolactin. More with Tren, but Deca as well. An AI with deca may be sufficient. Look into it. If you haven't run deca before you may want more Test to cover it. That is more involved in controlling deca dick. Look at the standard test / deca ratio. If you have experience with deca and 300 works for you, that's another thing.
I did manage to have a family before I became sterile so I'm really not upset about it and there are super aggressive PCT protocols (not written about on eroids) that could potentially bring sperm production back in somebody like me, but now I'm on TRT (doctor prescribed, not self induced) and I really don't care and my wife doesn't want any more kids nor do I.
But again, I want to see your cycle layout and see when you end deca vs the test and so forth.
EDIT: But, make no mistake. The mistakes I made with steroids because I was a dumbass did make me sterile. So, watch yourself. Most women do not want their man to be shooting blanks. So if you don't have kids, are not married or in a committed relationship already, sterility is NOT as selling point with the ladies. LOL
It's ok I had a bad pin today and my entire upper quad is inflamed lol I'm not in the best mood either so I know how it is. And no sir I want to run test E with the deca to counter the deca dick not tren. And well my lay out would probably be test 300 x2 a week and deca X1 a week for 10-12 weeks and AI Eod for length of cycle but watching out for crash. Then for PCT clomid AND nolva both and maybe hcg. I didn't know the shut down from deca was that rough :(
Bro, I want to see this layout in standard format. Go to the cycle log pages and put it in there. Include everything you will be using. AI, PCT etc.