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Hi I'm looking for some advice for my next cycle. I ran 3 cycles of prohormones in the past and I am currently running sust 250 2 cc per week. I was thinking of running test e and deca next but I'm unsure of the dosage/length I should run. Any feedback is appreciated

TheFlash85's picture

test only mate first cycle, hope you did pct for your ph, get bloods b4 anything

bdubz's picture

I did do pct for the pH didn't get bloods should have. I'm on 1st cycle now it's test sust 250 2 cc per week I was trying to find out about my next cycle

TheFlash85's picture

time on plus time off mate ....

bdubz's picture

Absolutely I would be starting in mid September this cycle ends the last week of April then 2 weeks off and 4 weeks pct makes 16 weeks I would need off. I'm just trying to do some research and get some input beforehand. Thank you for the concern it is highly appreciated

crazymofo's picture

Here is the cycle:

http://www.eroids.com/cycle_logs/sust-250

Taking sust 250 2 cc per week
Starting weight-150 lbs
Starting bench- 135 lbs

After 5 weeks
Weight- 172 lbs
Bench-185 lbs

My goal is to reach 190 lbs of lean muscle and get my bench weight to 225 lbs. Obviously I want gains everywhere I'm posting bench weight bc I believe it's the easiest to track

Still no stats in profile.

From the small amount of info you have given you are appear to be making poor choices. Give us more info.
Height?
BF%?
Years training?
Current Diet? Calories and macros
AI?
PCT?
DO you have a clue as to what you are doing?

bdubz's picture

Training should have said on and off for 12 years and I have been lifting solid for 1 year since last break

crazymofo's picture

What do you mean last break? As in spring break? As in you are in college? Maybe not really 28???

bdubz's picture

I ment as in the last time I stopped lifting I am really 28 Im not in college. I joined this site to learn and get advice lying would be counter productive

crazymofo's picture

OK. gotcha.

bdubz's picture

Here is some more info. Sorry I am having a little trouble finding how to add things to my profile. I am 5 10 have been training for 12 years. My diet is approx 4500 calories and 250 grams of protein per day for Ai I have Arimidex and for pct j have clomiphene and for pct j have novadexe(sp?) If I am doing something wrong please let me know what it is. I have done a lot of reading but this is my first cycle that's why I'm here to learn

crazymofo's picture

At 5' 10" 150 lbs you should not have even been thinking about gear. And you say 12 years on and off training with 1 year steady and you are only benching 135??? I am not trying to berate you but bro that just doesn't add up.

Have you had any blood work done ever?
What is your dosing protocol for the adex?
What is your plan dosing protocol for the PCT?

bdubz's picture

Don't worry I won't take offense to anything. My bench weight is low i have always leveled off at around 135. 5 weeks into the sust I'm up to 185. I didn't have blood work done which was stupid. As for dosing the alex I take half a mg every night. Pct dosing is 100 mg daily the 1st 2 weeks 50 mg the last 2 weeks

crazymofo's picture

Well I do like the way you have taken the scrutiny. Here is a good read:
http://www.eroids.com/forum/training-nutrition-diet/workout-exercise/the...

There is a ton of info on food and training in there which you need to concentrate on.

First off go get blood work done. Do you know what you check for?

Your choice of Sust for a first cycle is a bad choice. It is a multiple ester compound. Do you know what esters the Sustanon consists of and their individual dosages?? Do you understand how they work and affect blood levels? Do you understand why they determine when you start PCT?

You appear to have done some homework but still a little incomplete.

Proper PCT would be:
Clomiphene 100/100/50/50 (that's 100mg a day week 1-2, 50mg week 3-4)
Nolva 40/40/20/20
I really disagree with the fact you chose to cycle. But even at that I don't want to see you on TRT. As for the PH's just don't do them. You could have accomplished more before you ever started cycling. As for a second cycle I would just say no. The fact you say you were stuck at 135 Bench and 150lbs scares me. Either you were not training as hard and eating as much as you say OR there is an underlying issue that needs to be addressed before AAS is considered. I have a feeling that after you end this cycle and PCT you are just going to lose the gains.

bdubz's picture

Thank you for all your time and help. The breakdown of the sust is propionate 30 mg phenylpropionate 60 mg isocaproate 60 mg decanoate 100 mg. Blood work I know to test for test and estrogen levels but not beyond that. My size/gain problems might be genetics my entire family is small like that but after talking to you I will definitely get it checked out. What is trt I haven't heard that term before. Again thank you I appreciate your help

crazymofo's picture

TRT is testosterone replacement therapy. In short it is exogenous testosterone used to replace one's on natural testosterone because of lack of production. The use of AAS can cause one to damage the HPTA(if you don't know what that is look it up). You need to keep researching heavily on how and why to PCT. Use the magnifying glass at the top to search.

As far as blood work checking thyroid would be a good idea. A good way to go about it would to simply see a doctor after your pct and talk to him or her about it. If you have insurance it will be a lot cheaper that way. But never say you did AAS.

bdubz's picture

O ok I should have known that just never saw it abbreviated as trt. And I will do that with the blood work. Thank you

crazymofo's picture

Sounds good. Also look into upping calories. Eating should be the hardest thing you have to do. If you are waiting until you get hungry to eat you are doing it wrong. If you don't gag a little trying to finish off a meal you are doing it wrong. And I will say it once more put the Cycling on hold until you can figure out how to gain naturally. You should be able to hit 190 natty. You should consider stopping the current cycle and going into PCT because you weren't ready to cycle.

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bdubz's picture

Again all good advice thank you

bdubz's picture

Thanks for responding. I added some info to my profile not sure if it's what you were asking for. This is my first aas cycle the test e and deca would be my 2nd. Also I didn't see a spot to add it (I'm on my phone right now not home) but I'm 28 years old

bdubz's picture

Thanks for responding. I added some info to my profile not sure if it's what you were asking for. This is my first aas cycle the test e and deca would be my 2nd. Also I didn't see a spot to add it (I'm on my phone right now not home) but I'm 28 years old

Big13's picture

Stats, cycle history, goal, and fill out your profile...

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Get some stats up

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