+ 1 My first cycle
All advice and comments will be tremendously appreciated. First and foremost I am a rookie, first time ever dealing with steroids and putting together a cycle. I'm pretty confident and a little nervous and after much research and reading, I have made up my mind to go for it. So here is what i've put together for my first cycle.
I'm going to keep it simple and only run one test, as to if if theres problems i'll know right away what it is.
so TEST E @ 500 mg per week split into 2 injection M/TH for 12 weeks
Some say it's safe to have an AI (aromasin or Armidex) on hand if promblems arise. While some say to take 12.5 of it a day throught out the cycle.. could someone shed a little light on that for me and what's the best way to go about it?
For my PCT im going to be running 4 weeks of Clomid and Nolvadex.
Week 1 Nolvadex 40mg and Clomid 100mg a day
Week 2 Nolvadex 40mg and Clomid 100mg a day
Week 3 Nolvadex 20mg and Clomid 50mg a day
Week 4 Nolvadex 20mg and Clomid 50mg a day
Now should i start my PCT after 2 weeks of my last injection or right after my last week of cycle?
Also my diet is going to consist of 2g of protein per body weight and 1.5 g of carbs per BW and plenty of fruits, veggies and water.
For my training regiment i've been a gymrat for years and have plenty of experience and am going to follow a very disciplined regiment, and get plenty of rest.
Also my stats: age 23, weight 157, BF 10%, Height 5'6
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Looks like a nice planned out cycle well done. Im starting my first cycle soon too in about a month and a half or so. Im doing pretty much exactly this except I'm debating using dbol as a kicker, i know this isn't recommended for a first cycle but when i start this cycle i want to see results day after day, not at the 5-6th week, i know its naive but it would keep me motivated 100% throughout the cycle
your idea of using D-bol to keep gains coming through out cycle is wrong, you will gain 15-20 pounds first month and that will be all your gains for the cycle. psychologically d-bol is not a good steroid if you like consistent gains.
thunderbeastWhat do you think of TEST PROP for maybe the first 2 weeks as a boost, instead of d-bol? What are your thoughts?
From what iv learnt for a first cycle nobody recommends doing anything other than test enth. On a second cycle it might be worth considering.
thunderbeastkk
In that case i think ill just stick to the test then, thanks for the heads up, i think i would have regretted using the dbol after weighing up the pro's and con's. thanks
thunderbeastyeah bro, let's keep it simple.
thunderbeastYour expectations seem pretty high man, i really don't know what to expect but i'm setting my expectations low, so i'll be even happier with what i get out of this. You also gotta remember this is a marathon not a sprint, but either way were both going to be yoked SWOLbraham lincolns up in the clubs lol. Yeah absolutly were going to need motivation for this if your like me i'm gonna be no lifing it for this cycle, gym, nutrition, sleep and work that's it. #gymgrind I also was contemplating on implementing something as a kicker but for the first time i'm just gonna stick with the advice of other veterans, and i'm not being a pussy in any way, nor am i telling you not too, i'd just rather be safe than sorry. Were dealing with potent shit here mange. I heard test prop was a good kicker for your first time maybe you should look into that other than dbol, i hear dbol swells you up good and you don't keep most of your gains from it.
Anyways dope man were both going to be doing our first cycles at about the same time, I can't wait to hear your results and i will be posting mine as well.
Ye i no when i saw you were doing yours in a month i was thinking we could try and compete, like who gets the most gains the, and who can keep the most and give tips along the way, could be fun man sent you a FR
Edit: and i hear what your saying with the dbol, i was going to run it at a low dose and try my utmost to prevent as much water retention, thanks for the heads up
thunderbeastHell yeah bro sounds epid we'll post stats day of starting and take pics day of, nothing like competition for some motivation! We also have to exactly what the other does, aha this is dope man we should set-up some kind kind of reward or the other person has to do some stupid shit if they lose. IDK we'll think of something, but for the meantime i'm ordering all the supplies and everything i need within the next 2 weeks. I hope your not planning on winning cause i'm gonna go beast mode.
but we'll figure something out this sounds like it's gonna be fun.
Hell ye! Im ordering the rest of my gear in the next week too. This is gna be epic! Im already hella motivated aha! Gna be a fun journey. And im going in ape mode bro im off from work so i have all the time in the world to pump iron and eat alll day
I want to jump in on this action! Send me a FR!
+1's all the way around folks. bring it here!
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thunderbeastShit is getting real folks! aha hell yeah man it's gonna be fun.. Not only are we competing were also trying to help each other at the same time to get optimum precision. to better each other.
Don't do AI unless u need it.. I didn't need it till like week 5...that's when I experienced nipple sensitivity and itching. I got horrible test flu week 6 and an infection towards the end of my cycle...don't draw with thick needles use 23gauge.Also rotate glutes and quads.. I did glutes only, that could've caused the infection
thunderbeastthanks m8!
23 is a little young bud. You are full of test right now. Eat big and clean, go hard at the gym for now and you should get great results.
thunderbeastBro, do you even lift?? GTFO i specifically asked for advice not some pussy shit from some soft serve faggot who thinks hes doing something right, stop trying to save the world and give me some real advice.
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thunderbeast?
Lmao. Listen little man I'm trying to help ya. But you seem to know all bro. Pin away little man.
thunderbeastBRO! who the fuck are you calling little man?? Dude gtfo of here like your trying to help anyone but yourself trying to earn some respect on this website thinking your telling the young lad's you should'nt do this so respectable. Most likely your just some faggot doing AAS for the first time too.. So bro do yourself a huge favor tuck your sack back and approach me slowy and tell me your sorry in the softest voice you can muster.
we ban people on this board for talking like that, this is your only warning.
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thunderbeastYour right, im acting immature. no excuses
Hey bud I'm happy that your all jacked up and ready to kill it. I'm also impressed on your research. And at 23 I was just like you wieght height and attitude lol. Keep it simple as you have it planned. I use AI from first to last pin. I like Adex at .25 e3d. If you start to see sides run it Eod. But keep a good head on your shoulders bud. Now enough with the talk and get growing bro. Welcome to the darkside. As far as PCT it looks real good. Are you gonna run Aro or Adex for AI?
thunderbeastI'm thinking adex, I haven't been hearing too much good stuff about Aro, .25 is that like a quarter a every 3 days? Thanks m8 I enjoy the feedback and help! Yee son be about don't talk about it. Also what did you run for AI?
I have ran adex on all my cycles. Yeah that's a quarter ml. If you start to see sides run it at .25 eod. I have always ran my adex at .25 eod but we all are different and I would rather be safe than sorry. I'm gonna be running a bulk cycle in the winter.
1-12 test e @600mg a wk
1-12 NPP @400mg a wk
1-4 adrol 50 @50mg Ed
13-14 test p taper
Adex @.25 eod
And the normal protocol for pct but might throw in Aro in with that pct
thunderbeastWOW that's a monster cycle man, your gonna be SWOL not that you already aren't.. What's your history with AAS how many cycles do you under your belt? Sending you a FR if i need any tips or advice while i'm on cycle also to see your results with that.
the question is do you even lift? 157 fucking pounds @23 your steroid cycle should consist of some food!
thunderbeastoh yah bro? more like 157 lbs of pure muscle, steel, and sex appeal! and c'mon guys cut me a break and lend a helping hand to one of your bro's and give some real advice. im just trying to get swol, not shooting up heroine, i mean unless it gets you swol?
you done well with your research, i dont encourage a youngster to use juice, and generally tell them to do their own research. with that being said everything looks good.
thunderbeastThanks brother! bout to go optimus prime on all the bro's at the gym!