posted Mon, 06/25/2012 - 11:01
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-2 my 2nd cycle
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before i go on heres a link that has my pic, my plan, prev cycle, and stats.
http://www.eroids.com/pics/just-turned-24
Cycle will be around 6-8 months from now, im just excited i like to pre plan lol.
It's going to be a cutter and im thinking
week 1-8 test prop 100mg eod
week 1-8 var 80mg
now as it exlains in the link above, my bodyfat will be a little higher from my previous expierences so im not sure if 8 weeks time frame is enough to go from 17-18% bodyfat to 8. When i did it naturally it took me 18 weeks. I mean with a strict diet which i always have, is it possible to drop that much fat and not sacrifice muscle with test and var? Perhaps i should cut out the short ester and just do a 12 week test e/mast e.
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This dude is a phony. He stole his photo from body space.
Check it out.
http://bodyspace.bodybuilding.com/AlMovement/
bahaha yea that guy def aint in his 20's, what a bitch to steal someone else's photo, what if we on eroids tell the guy your stealing his shit.
You dhould cardio your butt off for the next six months then build up from a lean fighting machine. Your age shouldn't be juicing. You're naturally a hormonal volcano right now. High body fat elevates estrogen...which builds more fat etc.
dieyoungdiebigbro im at 8% bodyfat did you look at my post? click the link im shredded...
its not even you, you lying fuck!
he def has you on this one, fast.
dieyoungdiebiglol it just makes me angry how people pick out every tenth word out of a paragraph and come up with some comment which they beilive is smart. It's exactly why i stopped going to public gyms, ppl ask me for advice so i tell them about how to diet, and they dont pick a single word up from it instead they quickly ask me what supplements i take :/. Having a bad day lol im pissed
your pissed! how about we should be pissed that you posted a pic thats not even you! i know i wont be helping you out until you admit that isnt you.
This guy had me goin round n round yesterday. Fuckers a fake? Then he jumped on a thread for advanced cycle....i was helping dude with test/eq . This faker pops in says lower test to nothing and 1500Mg of primo.
Guess i failed this test.....he got me grumpy. Lol
Just saw your pix....yes youre shredded. Forget the pic and simoly read your above stayement of 18% bf.. If you're shredded now which you are....why then jump to 18%.?
No need to Live bring pissed...your pix and 18% above statement are contradictory. Better wuestion is why yoyo from ripped to chubby?
dieyoungdiebigBecause thats how i like to put on muscle. Most people look pretty bad at 18%, i consider myself lucky alot of my fat goes to my ghetto ass, even at 18% i have top abs and considerable amounts of veins. I usually bulk naturally for 10 months. If lets say your doing the normal 500cal surplas a day, thats 1 pound a week, 4lbs a month. so 4x10=40lbs. Out of the 40lbs im lucky if 10-12 is muscle, 20 will be fat, and the rest will be glycogen and water or w/e. People who stay between 8-12% bodyfat yearly are honestly missing out on gains, 18% bodyfat is HEALTHY, it just doesnt look as good. It's easy to stay between 8-12% if your on gear all year or run tren, but someones whos natty if they really want to gain they need to be at a 500 surplas. also whats the point to be ripped all the time if your not at your ideal body, get to the goal you want then stay ripped. Only people this doesnt apply to is people with naturally low test, or 35 and above. Because fat loss may be a problem with them.
It's hard big bulking lower than twelve for sure. I'm thick as Hell so only do two small cycles a year. Definitly agree on not doing multiple cycles. I actually read ONLY your above statement before seeing your picture.
dieyoungdiebigall good bro, now that you understand what im saying whats your idea on the short ester or long? Do you think its possible to cut that much in 8 weeks? im asking because i only have aone test e cycle under my belt so im not very familiar with compounds.
If you bulk up....then cut down below 12%bf before a short ester run....test prop/Winny or prop and anavar are two simple cutters. Im saying below 12% because juice helps metabolism to a point. You obviously have diet down as your pics look sub 6% bf.. I have that ghetto butt as well so understand bodys first to last on shredding. Lol. But i just dont see 18% in 8 Weeks as being healthy. Its hard on the body. The current ebc contenders had passed along some of their regimines and they're dropping from 12% and fighting like crazy. Sub 12% you will also be more able to put on rock solid mass as well as lose fat because you're not JUST cutting. You will be doing both at once. Everytime i busted hard cutting from higher fat levels...i ended up losing the fullness i woulda had if I'd done it properly. Compare 180lb long distance runner to 180lb bodybuilder. Dont lose the fullness/thick build.
dieyoungdiebigvery good idea bro thanks! yea so before my planned run ill cut from 17 or 18 w/e i am to around 12 which will take me like 2 months around. then run the short ester and get down to 6ish :). Btw what do you mean i can pack on muscle aswell, you really think i will be able to do that while im dieting below 10% bf..
If you're body isn't forced to fight as hard of fat burning and protein is high....yes. Food workout toying with carbs can drop fat so your not forced to cardio off the mass. Tred is radd on diet plans where carb manipulation is concerned. I've lost fat while putting on size and I'm older...slower metabolism. You're young. Should be easier for you.
dieyoungdiebigvery nice bro, ill def give it a go.
When you're older and look back at how well your body grew and adapted at your current age its easier to see why us old fart get uppety. Classes and my degrees are aimed at sportsmedicine. I don't know it all in any means....but there's many proven resons that back that magic 25 year mark. Be safe and grow well!
dieyoungdiebigwill do brother, hopefully tread will check this post out. Would love to see what he has to say.
fast means well. and he def knows his shit. hes just not that big on people our age on gear.
dieyoungdiebigyea i understand, but is it also not pretty noticible how disciplined i am to achieve a body like that? I know the media always portrays ppl my age just drinking and doing stupid shit, but their is people like me who have always been into sports and shit. I have my fun from time to time aswell but i dont let it get in the way of bodybuilding and definiatly not my life. Yes i am on the young side, but compare me to all the ppl on thise site theirs like 4-5 males who are bigger, every other 30 year old or w/e is much smaller then me and not even nearly close to being as shredded. I dont agree with those whole age thing, i see ppl cycling on this site who dont even look like they have tried for a year and ppl dont say anything because their 30. I'm also open to my doctor about it aswell, i have had the same doctor since i was 18 and he has monitered the whole thing, theirs nothing out of the ordinary. And this whole 25yo being the right age, is just a theory that was made by someone on elte who claimed at 25 the hpta is done adjusting. Theirs no evidence behind it whats so ever, it should be based on someones mental maturity, not age.
Which still doesn't answer why post 18%? Why go that high when you're already cut when yoy can still grow fast under 12%?
dieyoungdiebigread what i wrote above to your comment
I got busted on the 18% bf he's listed on the above description. How many times we see postings of high bodyfat snd they don't bust hard to get ripped.
Dudes ripped....already.
yeah i c that now. i didnt actually read everything b4. all types of stupid up confusion up there.
Got it fixed though. Miscomunication happens. Lol!