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Mast E and Test Prop? OR Mast P and Test E?

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Posting from my phone so I'm gonna make it short. 31 yrs old 250 lbs 18-20 bf. diet in check, cardio 5 x week/ 20-30 mins day. this is my 4th cycle. Is there a major difference in the cycles listed? 10-12 wk cycle, pct on hand. Haven't used mast, recommendation on mg/ week? Mast prop EOD? Mast e twice week?
Thanks fellas.

tzelukie's picture

Hey mack. I would try and drop your body fat down some before running Mast, you will just be wasting your money, plus mast gives BP a pretty big jump in my case anyways. There is some great diet info in the other section or you could look up some of Vikings pre contest wrap ups. If your really determined to run something my opinion would be just a low dose test, Learn how to cycle carbs, that for me melts fat. And when the fat is down and the BP is OK then you can plan a nice cycle with realistic goals... Marathon not sprint your only 31.

ChemDawg's picture

Did you mix up the esters in the title? I would think Test P and Mast P would go together, just like Test E and Mast E. Keeping the same or similar esters in a cycle will make your pinning schedule less confusing and the compounds will activate at the same time. You should do some research on half lives of the esters and how to pin them properly. I see new members jacking cycles up all the time by mixing esters and trying to stretch esters out to long. Just because the half life of the Prop ester is about 3 days some guys assume they can pin it E3D, but that will cause spikes and falls in your hormone levels, which causes more severe sides.

Catalyst's picture

At 18-20% bf you're wasting your money on mast IMO.

macklroy3's picture

Do you recommend anything else?

Catalyst's picture

Honestly mate I wouldn't cycle at your current bf. I'd drop it down with cardio and diet before you involve gear. You can trim 5% off easily.

PIN_CUSHION's picture

What were your previous cycles? What doses of each are you thinking for this cycle? What is your goal for this cycle? You have a lot of questions about Mast, you should probably research the compound a little more. You are going to need to bring your BF down some more before you start. Higher BF = increased sides, and Mast shines when your BF is in the lower range.

macklroy3's picture

I've had good success with npp and prop on my last cycle. Both at 100mg EOD with 3ius hgh daily. I was thinking similar if taking the props. Or 600mg test and 300-400 mast e weekly. I've done a little research on mast, but like I said I'm never used it. Looking to try a new compound and don't want to mess with tren. I'm in the process of lower bf now. Don't look to run a cycle until it's lower, maybe couple months. I have experience with var, Winnie, deca, test e and cyp, npp, prop.

PIN_CUSHION's picture

Well you have used Test Prop in the past so you should know how your body reacts to it. I would research Mast some more, and if you do decide to use it, running it in Pop form will allow you to rid it of your system quicker if you start having adverse sides. One thing with mast is it's DHT so hair loss and prostate enlargement are things to consider.

Ideally you would want to use short esters together and long esters together for the simplicity of pinning. I prefer long esters, because EOD pinning to me gets old, but like I said short esters leave the body quicker.

macklroy3's picture

Ok, thanks man. I appreciate the help. Do you recommend anything other than mast? I thought about eq but my bf is way to high for that from what I read?

PIN_CUSHION's picture

Just depends on your goals. I've not tried either EQ or Mast. I have some Mast on hand, but My next cycle Is Just Test E and Proviron. I've looked into both EQ and Mast and for me I chose Mast. I would have thrown Mast in on my cycle, but I want to see how a Test only with Proviron does compared to previous Test only cycles. You just have to determine what compound is best suited for your goals, make sure you are familiar with all aspects of the compound both good and bad, then the only way to know for sure is to use it.

One thing I've learned here is to introduce one new compound at a time so you know how your body will react.

SWOLEtimer's picture

Why don't you just stick with the same esters all around?? No point in pinning EOD if your running test Enth but also have mast prop? Keep it simple homie, prop or enth all the way around, unless you are going to kick using the props for 1-4

macklroy3's picture

So you are thinking test e and mast e? With prop kicker? Just not sure of the major differences with mast e and test e.