Fall Cycle, Advice from Vets great appreciated
Looking for advice on a fall cycle that will keep me fairly lean, so I don't have to cut so hard in the spring. I'm fairly new to CORRECT cycles. I'm a victim of listening to people who I thought knew what they were talking about. I've had experience with Test Cyp, Test Enth, Test Prop, EQ, Deca, Winnie, Dbol, Var. My diet is fairly clean and I understand the amount of protein and carbs I need.
Usually my past cycles looked something like this:
Test E or Prop 500mg Weeks 1-10
Winnie or Var 50mg/Daily Weeks 1-10
Or
Test Cyp 500mg Weeks 1-10
Deca 500mg Weeks 1-10
Dbol 50mg/Daily Weeks 1-10
Never really used "kickers" or anything like that. Will need a little advice on PCT as well. Was thinking Clomid 100/100/50/50 and Nolva 40/40/20/20.
I respond pretty well to test since I'm faily new still. I'm 29 yrs old 6'3" 245 lbs.
Any thoughts on supplements as well?
Thanks for the help fellas.
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Test C or E weeks 1-12 @ 500mg a week split dose
Test P weeks 1-4 @ 150mg eod (kick starter)
Var weeks 6-12 50mg/day
Test P weeks 10-14 @ 100mg eod
Ai of ur choice like cdaddy mentioned same goes for pct 3 days after last prop Pin.
I have a buddie who ran this cycle and saw some awsome lean gains bro!
Great cycle bro... i just need to know if his BF% is G2G with a var run,otherwise its a waste of good cash.
True that bro, i believe my bros bf was about 12% so he got some killer results with the var in the mix.
zewiyeah if his bf is low enough var will be money..And it sounds like he isn't going to start this cycle for a little bit. So a good diet and training hard will cut that BF real quick for when the cycle is ready.
Yeah if not var..... maybe winnie? I won't start this cycle for another month prob.
zewistill would need low BF% bother. We got a month find that shit out ASAP.. and we will hook you up the correct way.
Will do, thanks man.
zewianytime brother..
cdaddy has you with the 12wk cycles instead of 10 that makes a big difference to results imo... i am not a great T/bol lover either i dont think it is worth its money for the tiny result it brings to the table... you have used a good bunch of compounds but i would love to have a current BF% figure before jumping the gun with a different oral kicker so as not to give you poor advice.... can you get this for me this week the thread will stay open so we have no rush and i would prefer to get this thing right from the start line.
Yeah I can do that. I have a buddy that's a trainer and they use the Bod Pod system. That work? I also have a free one time deal at my gym. I believe its with the measuring instrument.
Thats great news bro..we have enough time to get you in full body mode so every second of this cycle will be productive.. looking forwards to this i wish everybody would be so concise and give prep time like this!... we are going to be good friends my brother i like your style
Haha, I wasn't always like this! It comes with age/time and the willing to say we don't know it all. A ton of reading and learning what compounds go best together. If my bf% is a little high, I'll take the time to lower it within the next month to get everything right. Appreciate the help viking.
Hahaha i know what you mean bro.. i was/am a stubborn bastard, this will be a very good cycle you get together here i can promise you that,these guys have the passion brother.
Yeah, I've come to notice that. Wishing all the newbies here would take some time to actually learn and realize you guys are here to help. And it's fucking free advice! Why in the hell would you not listen to this???
cdaddy7+1 for understanding our purpose bro and seeking advice from vets before starting. It makes it worth it with guys like urself. I just spoke about that
We also get guys screaming for karma... take a look what a great attitude has done for his karma... guys we have ourselves a project on the boil here +3 from me.
That's one thing I've never done. I know I'll get karma when I deserve it. Nothing is free! I really think with the help from you guys, I could really be rocking a badass physique come summer. I'm pretty lucky genetically, just need to capitalize on it! Thanks for all the knowledge and motivation guys!
zewii gave him a + also. this whole thread made my day.
Mine too brother.
Refreshing brother for both parties indeed
cdaddy7Promising he is......
Thanks Yoda. Haha
cdaddy7The DreamTeam is what we call it LOL
Haha
zewiyes if we have your BF% it makes things even easier. Get a good clean diet and lower the BF if its high.. and then start a cycle that meets your goals.
Yes sir!
cdaddy7I know ur stats and history Mack so here's my thoughts. I'm sure fast and Zewi will have a good spin off for you to consider:
Week 1 - 12 Test E @ 500mg/week split dose
Week 1 - 6 Tbol @ 50mg/day with liver supports daily
Week 10-14 Test Prop @ 100mg EOD
AI of your choice on deck bc you r gonna need it. Aromasin 12.5 or Arimidex 0.25mg
PCT is 3days after last test prop injection
Clomid. 100/100/50/50
Nolva. 40/40/20/20
Hows the bodyfat?
zewix2
Never had it measured. I'm going to soon. It's nothing to brag about. I've been really lean at about 205-210, but I wasn't nearly as big as I am now in the shoulders/arms/chest/back/ areas. Hope this helps some until I get my bf %.
zewiI like caddys cycle a lot.
But i get the idea you want that kick at the end. Well if you BF is low enough.
IMO
1-4 test p @ 100mg EOD
1-12 Test E @ 500mg a week
10-15 Anavar @ 50mg ED
10-15 Test p @ 100mg EOD 13-15 take to 150mg.
AI your choice even though i would go with Aromasin
pct 3 days after you no the drill
clomid 100/100/50/50
Nova 40/40/20/20
or if you think your ready for EQ--with out without the Anavar
1-4 test p @ 100mg EOD
1-14 Test E @ 500mg a week
1-14 EQ @ 400mg a week
12-17 Anavar @ 50mg ED
13-17 test p @ 100mg EOD
AI your choice even though i would go with Aromasin
pct 3 days after you no the drill
clomid 100/100/50/50
Nova 40/40/20/20
cdaddy7Zewi u truly are a mastermind with cycles.....always in awe bro and just so u know we will b mapping my next one coming due in 2 r so months
zewithanx brother.
Appreciate it uncle zewi. I'm thinking the first cycle, I don't think I'm low enough bf % for the eq yet. Thanks again.
Eq helps cut me down with clean diet. Then if low enough...Pop the vars
cdaddy7 offered this advice and was right with what I was thinking as well.
Week 1 - 12 Test E @ 500mg/week split dose
Week 1 - 6 Tbol @ 50mg/day with liver supports daily
Week 10-14 Test Prop @ 100mg EOD
AI of your choice on deck bc you r gonna need it with the tbol more than likely. Aromasin 12.5 or Arimidex 0.25mg
PCT is 3days after last test prop injection
Clomid. 100/100/50/50
Nolva. 40/40/20/20
Solid advice from cdaddy7.
The only thing i would change would be Tbol. From my experiences i have found tbol to be a very weak compound.
I would either remove it completely and consider adding var, or use a test prop weeks 1-4 at the same dosages as weeks 10-14. Also, consider both var/tbol and prop (since you have experience with these compounds and many cycles under your belt).
cdaddy7LOL
I tried to edit but someone must have replied too fast!
cdaddy7It's ok Mack. We were on the same page. U see where I shortened the cycle to 14 weeks so u could have enough break in between for ur summer cycle. Spring I mean. Lol