posted Fri, 11/29/2013 - 11:10
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Lower dose cycles
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Quick question here for someone with more experience. I am helping a friend out at the gym get ready to run his first cycle. He is lower 20s and after lengthy talks about waiting he has decided to run his first cycle so I told him I'd help. My question is this..... In younger guys with already hi T can you get by with a lower dose of Test like 250mg of Test E per week or does all natty get shut down when u start supplementing so it wouldn't matter?
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RustyhookerAgree with finafan. Get him on here reading! My first cycle was 300/week and i added 15 solid. BUT......pct is gold when it comes to recovery! And NOTHING replaces food for growth.
I would tell him to set up a eroids account and start researching. After he has put in the time he himself should post the question you are asking. He has to find out himself. A child does not listen to anyone without the potential of discipline. So if he was to read and think he found the info himself then maybe he would change his mind. For someone this young that is serious about getting big I would direct him to something like IM40 by Ben Pakulski(really everything this guy does) or Secrete of the pros by Milo Sarcev. I think both have good info and a lot of it. Some contradict but that is the way it is. He should be pushed toward fine tuning diet and work out. taking 1 thing at a time making sure he masters it. If he was to just jump on AAS it would be a flat out waste. If he takes the time to learn all he can to establish his own game plan before a cycles he will be way ahead of the game. Its easy to tell him this but really he needs to feel he came up with it on his own.
Totally agree with all your saying here. I have told him the same thing. To check out this site and read up. At the same time if someone who I know is serious and is disciplined in their workouts, I am not just gonna refuse them advice. I just wanted to make sure I was correct on the lower dose. Thank you everyone for your replies.
One more thing. Tell him to get blood work now. Maybe he has a problem. It's $50 and well worth it. At the very least he would get a base line.
Covered this too he is going this week. Is a must in my opinion
post his levels
Hopefully he will get on here and post his own!!
Right on. Tell him he is a spineless bitch if he doesnt.
good challenge goes a long way with kids
tell him to up his food intake and he will grow... yes he will get shut down
Dedication and Discipline don't come in a pin my brother!
I will be using this Dedication and Discipline don't come in a pin my brother!
I know I know been through all that. He is a hard lifter and could clean up his diet but at the end of the day his call. So what would be the effect of running 250 mg qweek vs 500? Overall free and total T should still increase right?
I agree with Hollywood, but if you have to recommend a dose, less is more in this case. My first cycle was at a young age and it was 300 mg of test-c a week and I made great gains. It will cause a shut down, so make sure guy get him on a solid PCT as well. An AI may be appropriate to have on hand as well.
Yeah he will run a full pct and Adex while on cycle just wondering about the dose as my first cycle at 29 was 500 mg test e/wk
This was twenty years ago (18 years old), but I did 300 mg once a week and so did a couple of my friends and we all gained 20+ lbs. A lot of it was water, but we all kept at least ten. I would recommend 250-300 to start. I would never have him go higher than 500.