Looking for sound advice
Ok dudes,
I am about to start a 14 week cycle. Pretty moderate and simple. My goals are to build muscle and drop fat by next summer. I am 6 foot 4, weigh 280 pounds, and a guess would be between 25-27% body fat. I have lifted on and off my whole life and am pretty rehearsed with training and diet. I don't eat the cleanest ever which is how I got to 280. I have a diet in place and a 6 month training program alternating power, muscle and cardio throughout. Now for my question and I will be open to advice..
My plan is Test E 500mg/ week for 1-10
Equip 400mg/wk. for 1-10
Test Prop 150mg EOD for wk. 10-14
Anavar 50mg ED for wk. 10-14
I already have the EQ so if you're not a fan please respect the fact that I will run it regardless and like the long-term effects.
PCT is Nolva 4 weeks 40/40/20/20
Liver cleanse
Test Booster
I have run a EQ cycle about ten years ago, and just ran a RAW prohormone cycle 2 months ago. Picked up some mass and good strength from Prohormones.
My main question is would I need AI i.e. arimidex for during cycle? If so what are the rec dosages? Also if I can only get aromasin, what would be a dose for this? Which is the preferred AI?
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At the end of the day, my second cycle(one im about to start) is very realistic. I want to train hard, eat well, and get help in the recovery phase. I am a former military dude, so discipline and knowledge of what type of work outs is not going to be a problem. Not that being ,military means I know a lot, I just spent tons of idle time working out and learning proper form and fitness. My back injury didn't help with my weight gain, but now I feel strong responsible enough to cycle gear properly with its due respect.
How long did you run that EQ ten years ago? Have you gotten labs yet, post cycle? Yes, an AI like exemestane (preferred) would work, or the one you mentioned at .25mg every three days, and titrate for sides. As far as the dosages, everybody's body responds different. I use a base of 6.25mg exemestane daily and increase for sides as needed. How come you don't have clomid in your PCT?
An old school friend of mine, heavy hitter with gear, recommended unless Im really playing with heavy gear, that an AI when needed and Nolva would be plenty. As far as how long I my EQ cycle was, I shut it down at 16 weeks only because I hurt my back at work and spent too much time rehabbing. I was shooting for 20 at the time.
lots of conflicting opinions on AI's being as needed or essential, i think it all comes down to the individual and how quickly they aromatize, aka whether or not they can get away with not using one. some people can on mild cycles, god bless em but im not one of em unfortunatley.
most importantly tho, with all due respect i compeltely disagree with your friend in regards to the clomid not being necessary. clomid blocks estrogen at the pituitary whereas nolvadex blocks at the breast tissue ... the blockage at our pituitary gland is what we need the most to reboot our natural test production via luetenizing hormine.
clomid or toremifene is imo crucial during pct, and nolvadex alone simply doesnt cut it. you should definitly look into it more rather than just taking mine or your friends word for it tho. good luck with your goals bro
Have I really tried test? Yes. EQ and test cycles when I was 25. I liked it. never did PCT back then since I was young and dumb. I have weighed 280 for about 3 months, pretty much since I started prohormones. I gained weight and strength but obviously not all was muscle. I've been at a steady 265 for 8 years. My goal would be 240-250 with lower body fat. I can roll with just the Test. I can get some 500 E and keep the prop 250 for the end of cycle, and just hold the EQ till spring when I can run a cutting cycle??
AnonHmm wow you are right on the edge age wise, how long have you been " heavy " . The longer irts been the harder to loose it, and the older you get the harder to loose it. The test may be what you need, but have you really tried first ?
Just had an annual physical during my prohormone cycle. Aside from being overweight, and my liver values a little off( from the prohorm) all my levels were in range. I have always been heavy. I'm not a skinny or fit dude granted, but I've never been sedentary. My body has always worked in some way or another. My diet problems come from mainly carbs. I know how to eat, just get side tracked and busy at work. Pretty hard to eat mega clean doing 5 10-12 hour shifts.
I am listening though man, and obviously appreciate the advice. Now if EQ is not a good choice with my body fat percentage, how about a strictly TEST E cycle? Say, 500-600mg per week, for 14 weeks. then PCT. At that point I can run a spring cutting cycle and hit my summer goals.??
You may see better results with the Test dosage you want to run for 14 weeks, diet modification, HIIT, and labs. Then, do your boldenone on your second cycle. Get some BF calipers and really get close to 15% BF on this Test only run. You can do a lean bulk or a cutting cycle as far as diet goes and see some really good results. Pack your meals and take them with you, look at the diet FORUMs on here, find out what your BMR is with activity, and watch the CHOs (carbs)...
RustyhookerEq is sweet. If there's any way that you can cardio down and polish the foods first there's a lot if lil tips to help. I'd just hate to give a go ahead and it's not fun for you. Having to do cycle, foods, cardio, bp, headaches, water, ai.........it makes it hard instead of fun.
Honestly, I want to add some test because as hard as I work out, my body just doesn't recover like it used to. So my logic would be I could gain a little help in the recovery/gym department while doing more cardio and HIIT training . My plan for diet will be paleo since I have already read the book and an very familiar with high protein all natural nutrition.
That being said, I would thing even in test, there's no way I get heavier if I'm loosing fat. The old saying us muscle weighs more than fat, however if I was lean and mean , my guess is my weight would be in the 220-240 range.
Agreed....HIIT most definitely...
RustyhookerEq is my favorite but you've got BIG problems here.
1-home bp monitor? Twice daily because eq will give you a stroke without knowledge and high bf..
2-high bf raises sbgh which will bind your test making it useless.
3-hows your bp normally? Bp spikes make aneurysm, strokes, heart attacks...DEATH.
4-High bf most definitly raises estradiol which counters your efforts. Ai with blood tests mandatory.
5- bloodtest done? Whats your free test? Cholesterol? Estradiol?
6- i know what you're thinking right now. I was in same boat all last winter. Diet is NOT under wraps. Be honest. Work that kitchen.
7- cardio after all the above done first! And before any roids used. 15% first will save you from getting DEAD or frustrated.
8-eq is minimum 16wks
Etc...etc...etc. Hate me that's cool. Dead wont get the goals and i see nowhere up top that you can manage all this at this time.
Slow boat wins.....its for life
Agreed.....