posted Sun, 07/19/2015 - 15:51
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Looking for 2nd cycle Idea's
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Hey Guys looking at getting some idea's on what I should do for my 2nd cycle. 1st cycle I just did 500 mg and got pretty good results with it. I am 6 ft and went from 200lbs to 225lbs on it and currently I am at 218lbs. I did do blood work through out my cycle and my test levels did get into the low 3000s. For the 2nd cycle I was just thinking of just doing 500 test e again and adding some proviron. Or should I also add something else in there like npp, dbol or avavar? My Goal again is just to put on mass again.
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L0l I love how you guys are talking water weight when thats all you guys are carrying. You shouldn't even do gear if ur over 15% or your gonna have estro problems.
Honestly If I were you I would do 500mg test, 100mg test prop EOD weeks 1-4 for kickstart (you'll love this stuff) and then deca at 400-600mg/week or npp 450mg/week. That will be a great mass gainer IMO.
I like the lean mass gains myself so I never run anything that gives alot of water weight. Id rather stay single digit bf and gain slowly instead of stacking on massive weight thats water weight and fat. I mean your already good size, whats your bf % at?
He can gain just as much mass running test e only with a prop kicker and eating ... deca is notorious for adding water weight if not done properly
19 nor for second cycle? ... Yeah no.
Its not like hes adding tren in the mix which is where shit gets out of control. hes done test and he was fine, if he knows how he reacts to test then he will know if something is up adding deca. I see no point in waiting to do another compound since it will be clear if something is going wrong. Deca has low sides besides deca dick so I don't see a problem with running it. Why not make the most of a cycle instead of wasting time and money if he isn't satisfied with the results because they won't be the same as the first cycle was.
It's just not a good idea man. Deca nor Tren should be ran first few cycles. He would get good results @600mg test a week with proper bulking diet (eat big, getbig) and could run dbol as a kicker or prop. It's simple but will be very affective for a 2nd cycle.
I see Vets here who run TEST ONLY cycles still at a moderate dose weekly with good results, so to say he needs to add compounds to get better results bc it's his second cycle is inaccurate to say the least.
Deca has low sides? Are you kidding me? The biggest sofe is the god damn supreshook from it. Remember that study where 1 10g shot of deca completly shut down some guys natural test production for 2 months?
19-Nors are not for beginners. It is unwise to use/reccomend it for a second cycle.
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Deca for a second cycle could really throw you for a loop
Add one coumpound per cycle, that's the rule of thumb.
If you want add proviron at 50mg/day
Or (And NOT and) consider a propionate kicker and taper
Or (And NOT and) a mild oral to kick or finish with, such as anavar or turinabol (50 mg/day for 4-6 weeks MAX)
Only add one coumpound. You need to feel out how your body responds to each compound. This helps you dial in how much AI you'll need, and you're liver protection regime.
I suggest Food
Do good answer. Kind of puts me to shame...
nah.. you had a good answer also ;-)
Thanks grrl!