posted Tue, 06/09/2015 - 09:47
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Long cycle PCT suggestions
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I am getting ready to come off a long Cycle. looking for some suggestions for PCT.
I am 42 - 5' 9" - 187 LBS 11-12% BF
Ran EQ @ 500 mg a week for 14 Weeks Test C @ 200 - 400 MG a week
Started Tren A @ 100 MG every other day and Tren E @ 400 MG a week, started at week 7 now been running test C @ 200 MG a week. total on this 12 weeks. Total time on this cycle Jan 11th to June 9th today. Wanting to wind down soon.
also been take Nolvodex @ 50MG EOD since week 8
BP is good on the High side but not bad, feel good, look good, no real bad sides other than the insomnia from Tren and night sweats.
Any help, comments, suggestions would be appreciated this is my 4th cycle.
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Thank you all for all the input very appreciative. To answer a few feedbacks, I am already on TRT for life as my 1st cycle crushed the dream of ever having naturally produced test again. Brought on by Bad advice or should a say I was used as an uneducated Ginnie pig.
I was looking into HCG and was about ready to pick some up, but trying to get more educated. Will be getting bloods soon have not had blood work done in quite some time as my Doctor was getting sick of me coming in every month for blood work from my last cycle.
I know I am pretty much fucked, I have no Gyno though and no progesterone related side effects so I am happy with that. Thought the Nolva was doing its job. Yes I should have planned PCT much before now I guess I just was riding the wave now I will by the price when I come off.
Thanks all for the input.
If you are already on TRT why are you looking into pct? TRT people just return to their TRT doses yet you mention "coming off"?
Good Point Grimey. Coming off my cycle of Tren i guess i was referring to. I was not sure if there was any measure that I should be taking coming off the Tren. There is so much information out there conflicting and Non-Conflicting. So I guess i got tied up with the talk that is why i came to this forum.
I have read stories of guys being on Tren for a year with no issues other than the fact there nuts are mush.
Id say the best thing to do after that long tren run is get in to get some bloodwork done so you can find out what damage has been done and attempt to get things back to normal. Without bloodwork its a guessing game.
My educated guess is that you'll be on hormone replacement for the rest of your life after that stunt of a "cycle", especially at your age.
You need to stop now, get bloods, start a super aggressive PCT and see if by chance you're going to be okay, by getting another blood test.
Wish you the best, but there's no sugar coating it. Serious AAS use has serious and long lasting consequences. I sure wish folks would spend a few minutes researching this before they start.
This is fucking ridiculous man. You're 42 and you have been on cycle for 6 months. No mention of an AI or prolactin control. You started taking nolvadex at week 8, did we go back in time to the 1970s when that was last used to avoid gyno? You're almost certainly fucked.
Get off this cycle immediately
wait 4 day then start taking hcg at 500iu eod for the next 10 days
take an Ai throughout hcg usage
wait 4 days then start clomid and nolva 100/40/100/40/50/20/50/20
Wait two weeks and have bloods done.
Don't expect miracles. I'd suggest you get used to needles because you're probably on TRT the rest of your life.
I wish you luck.
Thanks for the great run Down On the PCT. Grimey above brought up a good point. being that I am already on TRT do I really need PCT? I have been on TRT for 2 years a little over now. Caused by my 1st uneducated cycle.
In reading up on HCG is it possible this could help me at this stage? It seams like the answer but not sure if i am to far past the point at this time.
So no caber, no arimidex. Didn't have pct planned.
I'm gonna be pretty blunt here - you're fucked buddy. That long on something as suppressive as tren... Not to mention you're 42 and have a lesser ability to bounce back.
Whatever you end up doing, power pct , 6 weeks long or whatever.. Get bloodwork, your going to inevitably have low Test. Start thinking about trt.
I wish I could've been more helpful, but you're pretty far gone. I don't pct is going to be successful with you. I've seen guys run tren at 8 weeks and never come back from it.
Best of luck
JAG
opticxReally no arimidex ? I just ugh. People need to learn how diminishing returns work inside the body. Your body has a negative feedback loop for literally everything.
RustyhookerAt 200-400 mg per week of test how do you know he needed arimidex? How's arimidex and feedback loop related?
Need blood work.
RustyhookerTren for that long....I bet your endocrine system is forever dead. Be prepared for depression like no other, crying, irrational thoughts.
Up top magnifying glass. ...gs9902. Friend request him and get on point asap!!!!
Rusty when you refer to the depression would this be from coming off the Tren? or the lack of testosterone?
AnonIf I was you I would just go on trt. Most guys go on around 45-50 even if they have never touched AAS. Just for better quality of life
hunteron20s6 months ??? Really .why ??.you have to take aas time plus 3 weeks before pct then add 6 weeks before you should even consider running anything .. pull bloods to see how bad you are shut down. That will help come up with a pct that is more for what you need .
opticxWhy would you run nolvadex? it just docks at the receptor it doesn't get rid of the estrogen..
So you didn't run EQ long enough. You didn't use caber. You only used nolva. No ai. I just see a lot of recent mistakes here my friend. Have you pulled bloods at all?