Life changing decision
I know I might get a lot of hate from this but it's better than not asking questions at all
STats
-18
-5'11
-175 @12% BF
Ok guys I'm gonna make the decision that's gonna make or break my life (maybe) you could say I'm a risk taker migrating to australia with me and my mum only and moving out at the age of 16 both personal decisions and ATM paying off almost finishing year 12 and going to a good university. I wanna compete at the same time I wanna have a business in the fitness industry. I have good genetics according to guys in the gym that do compete in nationals and I'm willing to take the risk and jump on my first cycle.my supplementation is on point so is my diet. I will happily take criticism from people in this forum who know better than me.
Cycle
Weeks 1-10
Test E 400 mg twice weekly
0.5 arimidex( taken EOD or everyday if symptoms of gyno appear)
I know I might get a lot of hate from this but it's better than not asking questions at all
STats
-18
-5'11
-175 @12% BF
Ok guys I'm gonna make the decision that's gonna make or break my life (maybe) you could say I'm a risk taker migrating to australia with me and my mum only and moving out at the age of 16 both personal decisions and ATM paying off almost finishing year 12 and going to a good university. I wanna compete at the same time I wanna have a business in the fitness industry. I have good genetics according to guys in the gym that do compete in nationals and I'm willing to take the risk and jump on my first cycle.my supplementation is on point so is my diet. I will happily take criticism from people in this forum who know better than me.
Weeks 1-10
Test E 500mg taken twice weekly
Arimidex 0.5 ( taken EOD or everyday if symptoms of gyno appear)
Weeks 1-12
Nothing
Weeks 13-14
50mg clomid everyday
Weeks 15-16
25mg clomid everyday
As I said criticism is more than welcome ! Thanks guys God bless
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Brother, you're in the right place to ask candid questions and get candid answers.
The reason the iron vets here are so insistent that peeps don't start using AAS until they're 25 or older are real reasons.
The conservative advice you'll get here SAVES LIVES!
I learned how to listen to people that have made terrible mistakes before me. That's why I don't gamble, I don't run around on my wife, I try to respect everyone regardless of age, race, or gender, and I sure as hell don't f**k around when vets tell me the truth!
I won't criticize you. You simply wanna be stronger for yourself and for the people you care about. I have mad respect for that.
PM me and I am happy to send you lifting program that will help you build a solid foundation of muscle, as well as teach you the fundamentals of proper form, mental training, breathing, and overall gym etiquette, if you desire. (And no worries if you're not interested. I didn't get to where I'm at alone. A lot of vets held my hand. I'm paying it forward, and if you embrace the iron lifestyle, it'll be your place to help out the young guys in the coming decades.)
Wishing you well, brother. Cheers!
You say you've been training your whole life? I didn't learn how to eat / train properly till I was in my early 30's. Then I was able to gain like 25lbs in first year. No way you should be juicing at your age with those stats.
Let me tell you straight. At 175lbs you don't have a base built, largely because you haven't been at it long enough due to your age. Realistically jumping on gear means you'll gain size, then you'll lose most If not all of it when you come off. So you'll cycle again, probably adding more gear, same happens. More gear, more up and down, probably only a couple of pounds heavier a year town the line.
I see it every day mate, especially with you younger guys. Gain 10, lose 9. If you sharpened your game in diet and training you'd be further along......
If you're moving to aus I know a lot of the local BB scene has youngsters that have already hit the gear before even 18 and they are now in their early 20's competing at weight which is well above your stats (similar height) If you really want to get into the fitness industry is it to compete? At that age only reason to get on the roids is to compete (and even then its a pretty shitty reason) But these are the people you'll be competing against.
At 18 I'd have a go at it completely natty until ur in your mid 20s and see if you like it enough. You'll make plenty of gains @ 18 with a great diet trust me, i trained for 6 years before even considering gear and that was when my gains had plateaud almost completely. I wanted a tattoo at 18 i dont want one now. Alls I'm saying is make sure competing is really what you want to do before hitting the gear and if you do you will be best off waiting a few years.
Shoot, If I knew about all of the diet and training info that is available at my fingertips now back when I was 18 I would be able to put some serious weight on with just my high natty test levels alone back then. No need to screw up a good thing when you got it, so take advantage of the info available to you now and use it with that generous supply of natty test to make things happen.
RustyhookerI didn't really start massing up til after 18. Right now your natural system is about to boom. Why mess that up?
nah mate, at 18 concentrate on getting laid, go get jiggy with it, go have an interacial gang bang or something.
Rustyhooker^^^^^^^^this!
Your diet is not on point becuz u didnt post it..
for starters....your AAS, AI and PCT have holes in it, too. More research...bro and SEVEN (7) MORE YEARS...
Post up a pic and let's see
Aside from stunting growth and possibly being on trt for the rest of my life is there really any other major differences between taking steroids at a young age than older ?
TRT is a pain in my ass. I spend a considerable amount of money annually for it. I have at least another thirty years of it and I'm already tired of it. I risk cardiovascular issues just so I can feel normal.
Yep....maturity vs. immaturity isnt just physical....its mental too...decisions made at 18 are completely different than decisions made at 25. Depending on what country u are in possession of AAS is illegal. Making decisions to use it will affect u differently the more mature u are. U start talking to ur homies about using steroids and some jealous person will hem u up and get u in a bind...u could do state or fed time...not something anyone wants....of course this could happen at any age and without talking to anyone...but u more likely to be a lot safer the older u get before u start using....the title of your post speaks for itself...
Um.... Yes... Heart/heart valve issues, cardiovascular issues, prostate issues, erectile distinction, not being able to have kids..... I can keep going if you would like......
18 years old? You're not even old enough to be ready to have children bro, why would you want to start AAS? You honestly want to shut down your body's natural test when you're at the prime age to be producing more then enough to make great gains with just food alone. Don't follow the new generation of young uninformed/ignorance bro. You will most certainly REGRET it once you get a little older and I'm not talking in your 60,70,80's more like 30's. There's plenty of people on here that can help you naturally with diet and training man I'm one included. If your looking for support for AAS you won't get it here from anyone.
Thanks for the heads up guys might wait a few more years
You will learn thru your journey that AAS helps, but its not everything becuz it represents a small percentage (30%) of the pie chart. In fact, the food you eat and how you eat it, makes the difference between bulk and cut and gains, or no gains. Recovery and lifting is second to food, and that encompasses social lifestyle, work, family, stress, etc.
A few how about 10. ;) haha like I said any of us will help you with diet and training man. There's no need to destroy your body at such a young age and not even give yourself a chance bro.
Welcome to EROIDS....did you stutter in your post???...lol...just kidding bro...i like the idea u are here and that u wanna get involved in the fitness industry....focus on that and do whats right....listen and learn.....update ur stats....are u 18 or 25...whats with the different ages?
Bro, I am downright offended that every time someone disagrees with some one it is labeled as "hate." I hope you go through your whole life and never experience genuine hate coming at you from another human being bro. I think there is a high probability that this will come true. Please do not use that word so loosely.
So, first, your profile stats say you are 25 and now you are saying that the truth is that you are 18?
We have a long explanation about age and steroid use - actually this topic has come up a bunch of times so if you use the magnifying glass up on top (the site search function) you can learn a lot about this.
The bottom line is, however, that if you start using synthetic hormones too early you will most certainly end up with a physique that is completely inferior to what you could have achieved if you had waited and continued to add mass without synthetics then hit the anabolics when you had maxed out naturally.
So, what is really frustrating is that you may have beautiful genetics for bodybuilding - the kind or genetics that may lead you one day to be a champion in the sport - and instead of working with that blessing and making it work for you - you will trash your chances by a premature introduction of anabolic hormones.
Once the damage is done it cannot be undone and if you start to early you will never know what might have been.
Then, there is the very real issue that an early use of steroids could leave you sterile and unable to have a family - ever in some cases - even with the most costly of techniques of in vitro fertilization - your sperm quality and such may just be too poor.
I am sterile from steroid use. So I'm speaking from personal experience on this one.
You're not likely to attract the kind of wife you want if you have to admit to her that you can't give her children.
These are just a couple of high level tidbits for you to think on, but we could write a novel on the consequences of to early an introduction of anabolic steroids.
I have sent you a friend request FR so you can send me private mail on eroids PMs.
I am trying to scare you bro, for certain, cause a lot of the information people will tell you is downright wrong or half truths and coming from people who never took steroids too early. I did.
This is a very thoughtful genuinely caring post, Inspirational you took the time to write it.
18 years old? Horrible decision. Bad, bad, bad. Reconsider and do not expect this site to enable this decision. Good genetics should indicate you can achieve so much naturally, not a indicator to do PED's. Anyone that supports you taking AAS at 18 yrs old, remove them from your network of people.
Your profile puts you at 25, but you indicate 18 here....which is it?