Lean mass cycle finishing off tight!
Ok guys here are my stats
5"7
29 yrs old
200ib
I have been lifting about 12 yrs but consistently 8. I have been on 5 or 6 cycles. My last cycle was about 1 1/2 yrs ago. I have fucked with test e on all my cycles. I have also done sus 250 in one of my cycles. I have used tren ace on 2 cycles. I have done dbol on 3 cycles. Fucked with winny once but wasnt impressed unless i just got a shitty batch. I used deca in 4 cycles. I used anadrol but didnt like it much. Eq is what i want to use in this cycle. This is my cycle i want to do.
Wk1-4 dbol 25mg/ed
Wk1-16 eq 750mg or 900mg
wk1-15 test e 500mg
Wk 12- 20 test p 100/eod
Wk 12-20 Anavar dont kno what i should do
wk 12-20 winny
Pct nolva/hcg/letro/
suggest a good ai?
Tell me what u guys think. I want to be on the money on this cycle!!!
THANKS FELLAS
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angusooh! I know rob! You should drop the EQ and run Tren E, Test E, and Anadrol. Whatchoo think hommie?
(this is a joke for those that don't know)
angusOk, after your prompting I am going to jump in here. I am going to agree with level that you would be better off frontloading the eq and leaving the dbol for another day. I also wouldn't run the Anavar and the Winstrol, I would run just the Anavar at the end of the cycle. This will keep you hard and dry and really give that emphasis at the end, which is what you are looking for. Also this will keep your estrogen conversion lower since the test isn't a huge dosage and there isn't any dbol to convert. So my recommendation would look like this.
Week 1-18 Test E 450mg/wk
Week 1-16 EQ 750mg/wk
Week 1-2 EQ 1500mg/wk
Week 12-18 Anavar 60mg/ed
Week 4-18 HCG 500iu/wk
Week 3-20 1mg adex e3d
Week 20-22 Clomid 100mg/ed
Week 20-22 Nolva 40mg/ed
Week 22-24 Clomin 50mg/ed
Week 22-24 Nolva 20mg/ed
I think that is everything, save the tren and dbol for your winter bulk cycle. This is a long cycle but IMO that is needed for the EQ, the longer you run it the better the results. I don't even consider results appearing form EQ until the 6-8 week mark. But since you're front loading you might see them at 4 weeks. I prefer the prop intro like level suggested but I also noticed that you didn't have any so I wrote it up with what you had on hand.
You dont kno me do u? Here comes my asshole side of the response. you ask for it fucker
I think im going with what angus told me a while back. Run test half of what im gonna run my eq and leave out tren e and winny
These are high doses , I'm not against it but I ll advise for u to start easy on lower doses then up ur doses when u feel comfortable
Actually since ur trying help but are being an asshole im gonna be nice. To me a good suggestion then ? I was going for lean muscle mass then finishing tight. Tell me what im doing wrong then. I kno the eq and test go well.
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Thx bro. Ive had different opinions on the dbol. Whatcha think?
Personally I think it's a horrible cycle . I was just being funny in the above comment . It's like u have 2 cycles in one. Why r u running this?
angusSorry for arriving late to this party rob, I know you asked me to take a look at this but at this point I don't want to step on these guys toes, I honestly believe they are setting u up good. I was off helping someone else. But that's what this is all about, people jumping in to help and getting you solid. These guys are good.
Hell yeah!! I want to kno ur take bro. Thats honesty coming from that dude. Spit that knowledge bro. I wanna kno ur take also.
If u have something throw it up...u didn't get ur size running shit cycles... I'm just trying to match his goal with his cycle...plenty of ways it can be done...j already put up a working alternative
Im gonna do it then. Thx fellas u all be helpful
Bf is 12%
Damn ok i got the dbol on hand tho. I dont have prop but fuck it then ill save it for later. How about tren e? I got that on hand. So when do i start the ai ( dex)
Leave the tren e bud. I think you should focus on the EQ and anavar that will get you some great gains and keep sides low.
Start the adex on week 2. You can dose it at 0.25mg every 3 days. Or you can match it up the days you pin if that makes it easy. If you need to you can bump it to 0.5mg, only if you notice any signs of high estrogen.
http://www.eroids.com/forum/steroids-qa/pct-anti-estrogens/ai-as-needed-...
Also no offence but why do you need a suggestion of an AI? Didn't you say you ran 5-6 cycles?? You should know by now what AI to use and what dose.
also what is your bodyfat at??
I fucked up the first few times. I only took nolva and priv. It was a disaster bro
nah too complicated imo
try
1-18 Test E 400-600mg
1-17 EQ 600-750mg
14-20 Anavar 60mg
dbol and test prop will just cause estrogen problems and more bloat. keep it simple. Test/EQ/Var is my favorite combo you will look fantastic, be strong, and clean low sides cycle. Honestly adding a prop taper is going to cover up your vascularity from the EQ and Var at the end of the cycle.
If you NEED a kick I'd say anadrol 50mg ed for 4 weeks. If you are below 10% BF.
If you are above 10% then dont run drol
run HCG DURING the same time you use Anavar at 250IU 2x per week.
PCT
21-22 Clomid 100mg, Nolva 20mg, Aromasin 12.5mg ed
23-24 Clomid 50mg, Nolva 10mg, Aromasin 6.25 ed
Dbol I agree is unnecessary but estro problems and bloat with prop?? I'd say prop kick and taper here, gets ur uncle started with a bang and glides you into pct nice and easy...anadrol? Rbc problems here I think with the eq not to mention estrogen control with it an water retention
Okay a prop kick I suppose would be fine. IDK personally I'm not much of a fan of prop. Because when you get off prop you feel kind of down. I do notice some bloat with prop. If you use it for a taper on an EQ cycle it will cover up all that vascularity at the end of the cycle.
I'm using drol and EQ now (much higher doses) and seem to be cool. If you are concerned about RBC you could avoid the stack or take an aspirin. But 50mg drol is on the low end for RBC's. Also 4 weeks is short too but I like drol with EQ. I tried dbol with eq and it doesn't seem to mix as well with EQ. Dbol goes well with deca though
I think u are def right with no dbol. Drol is awesome but if he doesn't control estro there are problems and as long as precautions are taken rbc and bp issues can be avoided. I would drop the test e and pick up prop...should have clarified...wasn't saying run it like he has it
yea I mean either of the cycles we suggested are good.
I'm kind of concerned though if he doesnt know what AI to take I just re-read the post
I think he still has old school ai mentality angus and I got him straight on that earlier...he's just asking which is better here so I just suggested what works for me
Well u already know I say no dbol in this cycle...my suggestion use prop and front load the eq forget the dbol kicker...drop the winny don't think it's needed here. Would be better suited in a shorter cutter. Var for the last 8 weeks at 80mgs. Ai debatable but I'd day use Adex on cycle (seems to keep me drier) and switch over to aromasin during pct to limit rebound. imo should look something like this....
1-4 test p 100mg eod
1-12 test e 500mg
1-2 eq 1500mg
3-16 eq 750 mg
13-19 test p 100-150mg eod
13-19 var 80mg Ed
You could run tbol as a kicker in place of prop for a lean dry gain but liver values would need to be checked and confirmed that they are in normal range before starting the var