posted Fri, 07/09/2021 - 03:50
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lean bulk test eq npp cycle
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posting my 20 week cycle log here
lean bulk with an en goal to put on around 5-10kg lean solid mass by the end.
compounds and dosages
test 1000mg weeks 1-20
eq 750mg weeks 1-20
npp 100mg eod weeks 1-9
winstrol(oral)100mg per day weeks 1-4
then im going to a lean out drying fase at the tail end of cycle for last 6 weeks
tren ace 100mg weeks 14-20
mast prop 100mg weeks 14-20
anavar 100mg per day weeks 16-20
running nolva throughout from start to finish
adex on hand incase thingd get messy but i doubt it with this lean blast..
10 years cycle experience so dont flame me for the dosages lol
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better running deca over npp as 350mg a little low for good result. 700 deca with EQ a good start
ive ran deca loads of times over the years anythomg above 450mg pw i suffer big time with progestin sides..
ive not dabbled too much with npp so giving it a good go on this blast
GrowthForGrowthHow about just lower the gear and maybe add some hgh in? Weeks 14-20 you use over 3gram of gear just for…what?? If u want lean mass then take some test primo eq and some oral like tbol with a little bit hgh and a good diet.
personally the above are decemt conservative doses for the compounds im using..
hgh is over rated imho
RustyhookerWinny 1-4 is a waste imo. Tailend layout is trash imo. Pct? Im not seeing any knowledge here of ester length. Just toss in everything and yolo. Nolva thruout?
5-4....160? 10% What division you aiming for?
no pct just return to trt dose after blast mate
RustyhookerOk....so youre running it as is and everyone lined up to help?
AnonI run Nolva in place of Adex sometimes too. You probably seen my gear pics and seen I stay stocked up on both Nolva and Adex. I do this for joint health and to give my body a break from Adex. I know it lowers igf, it's a trade off when your joints are old and busted like mine. I don't advise anyone do what I do, it might not work for them like it works for me.
RustyhookerAnother reason aro is better if ya dial it in. The eq will have a mild ai effect and its gonna depend on the op and his conversions. But if hes just blocking then he still has the excess e2 floating around. Not necessarily bad per se but aro raises igf1 and eq has mild ai conversion. Npp should help joints but as many pins as he has going already....deca. The cycle layout though just has huge holes. All in one bulker cutter dry out.....not gonna work.
Joint pain sucks for sure
i defo agree with the eq ai effects which is main of the main reasons im throwing it in there buddy..
im on of those that doesnt like to kill off estro too much,id rather let it do its thing..
i dont tend to suffer too much from estro sides as long as i keep the nips protected(which pretty much are the only things that are super sensitive etc..
AnonI haven't ever ran aro, always ran Adex, I respond to it well and I know how to ween it down to prevent estro rebound. I'm familiar with Adex and stubborn lol, so I stick to it as my AI. I either bulk or I make lean gains on cycle. Test and Deca would be my go to for gaining size and strength and healthy joints, it's a simple combo that works for me, I throw in Caber starting at about week 5 (Without Caber by week 8 I get tiny drops out the nips if squeezed) and run the Caber 4 weeks past my last Deca pin. And it all goes smooth for me. I will not run Nolva in place of Adex with Deca, I gotta run Adex. I can get away with running Nolva instead of Adex for some other things, but I don't like to have that excess e2 floating around with a 19-nor.
RustyhookerRight there is know how^^^^. You got yourself dialed. Especially on running it past as too many forget the life of the chem youre blocking. I run aro if needed and not usually as directed. Its a lil trial and error but we do need e2....just not at point of sides. Knock it down a lil and keep truckin.
Have you tried the b6 method? Its been doing nice for me with nor or double nor....and nolva on hand incase i slip on letting e2 jump up. Usually if im oilly and horney i roll. If i get that greasy forehead i also notice e2 sides and just knock em down to oilly again.
AnonDeca hangs around. A lot of guys fail PCT by not dropping Deca 2 weeks before dropping Test.
We're all different and we will learn some things thro trial and error, and that's why I do advocate keeping detailed on cycle notes for every cycle to learn from and reflect on later. I haven't had a drop of fluid outta of a nip in years cause I learned how I respond to Deca and Tren and know what I gotta do to prevent high prolactin.
I run 300mg of B6 daily all year, and yes it does help some imo, but I don't run Tren or Deca without Caber on hand. I'm one of those guys that just has to run Caber with Tren or Deca. For Tren E .25mg Caber 2x a week on the days I pin plus 2 weeks after last Tren E pin. For Deca .5mg Caber 2x a week on the days I pin plus 4 weeks after last Deca pin. And that works for me. I don't get any Caber sides. I used to run liquid Prami to keep prolactin in check...holy shit Prami made me feel sick and gave my insane boners that lasted well after busting a nut lmao
I use the back of my finger nail and rub my forehead and nose at the end of the day to see how oily my skin is. But the real tell for me is acne. If I'm oily but no acne I'm good. If I'm oily with acne my E is too high. Often when I run my HCG (I run HCG on a as needed basis) my E goes up enough to bring on the acne. If E gets too high I will increase my Adex to eod instead of e3d and maybe add some Nolva too until things get back to normal. I will throw Dbol at crashed E and fix it real quick. I don't like Dbol nowdays but it does have it's uses, and curing crashed E is what I will use it for. If I crash my E my joints suffer and my gains stop so I like to keep a healthy level of E.
RustyhookerBoom! On point big bro! October i believe will be my deca run for fall. I really like npp but less pins will be a lot easier. I like your approach!
Probably don't need to put this in the Newbie Corner. This is an advanced cycle.
hi makwa i thought i had posted this in the steroid section lol..
where can i move this to?so its in the right place?
thanks
You posted in Newbie Corner > Steroids
I moved it to Steroids > Steroid Cycles
thanks buddy
Brandon49Only thing i would change is the orals, 100way to much maximum 50mg. And instead of winstrol you could take tbol not as bad for lipids and joints and give you more lean gains then winstrol.
50mg winny for me i barely notice a thing tbh and im saying that because im pretty lean year round..
personally the jump to 100mg is the min making it worth while to even run the compound..
and yes i agree with your point regarding drying joints etc..
thats one of the reasons i barely use winstrol but this time round im going to experiment by using it alongside the npp..
so i get all the strength gains from the winny and the benefits on the joints from the npp etc..
AnonNot running an Ai and running Nolva instead with a gram of Test....I don't think you're gonna have joint issues from 4 weeks of 100mg of winny. I've ran winny before and it's not bad on the joints unless you already have issues and are too dry. I think some of these guys are just parroting stuff they saw someone else say.