Just got bloodwork
I cannot post a picture. This is what was flagged as high or low
Creatinine, serum. 1.37. (0.76-1.27. Mg/dl)
Bun/Creatinine ratio. 7. (8-19)
Ast (sgot). 44. (0-44iu/l)
Alt (sgpt). 99. (0-44iu/l)
Total test 2906.6
Free test >50
Estradiol. 7.2. (7.6-42.6pg/ml)
Shbg. 8.5. (16.5-55.9 nmol/l)
I wanted to see if everything is in line or if I should be concerned. First I want to say that I got this test taken 10 days after first test e dose at 250mg and take that dose every 4 days. I also am using 50mg anavar as a little kick starter.
I know that I should have got this bloodwork done prior but I got excited to start as this is the first time using gear in a very very long time. I was concerned with estrogen coming into this because I got fat over the last 3 months and had some acne breakouts. I attributed this to having high estrogen because I was having every symptom that comes with that. I started letro at 1mg every other day Bc I am really paranoid about getting gyno. I got gyno before and had the surgery to have it removed so I really don't want to be in that situation again. I now have aromasin I will be using instead of letro unless there is a flair up.
I guess I am wondering if everything is to be expected on my bloods or if there is something I should be doing different to adjust my levels.
I am taking a multi vitamin, tudca, propecia, in addition.
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Still hope to get a better handle on the BUN/creatinine ratio.... Anyone have any idea what's going on with that, please let me know...
Stats
Age: 36
Height: 6'
Weight: 210
BF:
Please update your stats to include BF. Also what the goal here? Cut I assume? Diet and training to get there?
As to the bloods your total test and free test are high and as expected. SHBG is low which is good and also expected from taking var. Your estro is low but not as low as I would expect from taking 1mg of letro EOD. This has me confused. I would expect it to be fully crashed. So either you do aromatise very heavily from test, they letro is underdosed or the var is possible dbol. What are your "gains" like so far? Either way I would suggest backing off the letro a bit to get your estro in range.
Ast and alt are all raised which is consistent with taking an oral or just heavy training. They're not so high that I would be worried. I assume your GGT was fine? Creatinine is high but also expected on cycle with high protein and heavy training. The only thing I am not certain about is your BUN/Creatinine Ratio so hopefully someone else can comment here. Did they test for eGFR? If so and this wasn't flagged low I would not worry about kidney function. Make sure you drink 6 to 8 litres of water per day.
Hope this helps.
Bf is up there.. It really jumped over the last couple months. I would say in the 20-25 range. I am looking to lose bf and lose weight or not gain any while on.
As for the letro, I have/had a feeling that it was elevated to start Bc of everything that was going on prior that I was feeling. In December I came off a medication and from what I had been reading it can suppress nat test levels and that is exactly what I was going through... The letro was every other most of the 10 days with a couple every 3rd.. I have aromasin now that I'm going to use at 12.5 every other... U think that would be a good place to start?...
Egfr was 66. (>59ml/min/1.73)
I don't believe the anavar is dbol Bc I haven't gained any weight nor have I lost. I would thing if it were dbol I would have at least gained some water... The gains thus far have been good strength gains for being just 2 weeks... Everything is increasing.
The BUN/creatinine level has me confused as well.. I hope someone can chime in on that as well.
I have to say at 20 to 25% you should not be running this cycle. As you're only 10 days in I would just stop the cycle and focus on getting your BF down to around 15% before revisiting. Achieving this will be all diet, lifting and sufficient cardio. AAS are not going to help you do that.
Yep...agree...
Yea I understand completely where your coming from, and after seeing these tests I contimplated stopping and focusing on doing just that. And honestly I was at 10-15% prior to having this blow-up, so to say starting in January. My diet has always been clean and I'm doing tons of cardio. I'm convinced that discontinuing this medication allowed my estrogen to baloon. I feel I've kinda always had a lower test level for the past couple years, but that is speculation as I don't have the bloods to back that up. And compound that with the way I felt coming off that med, I'm convinced that my estrogen just got way too high and my body responded my adding 20 lbs from jan to march and had breakouts on my face. Which I've always had great skin, never had acne even in my teens.
What do you think of cutting back the test to 250 a week and seeing how that goes? I also now plan to get bloods again in about 4-6 weeks. As I do not want to be in this situation again.
Also wanted to just say that the blood was taken on day 10 of this and I'm now 14 days in. Also, if I do stop this now what type of pct do u suggest bc the blood has my lh at 6.2. (1.7-8.6) and fsh @ 5.4 (1.5-12.4).
250mg is still a cycle. And if you suspected low test and/or high estro and there were other meds involved even though now discontinued then even more reason not to run a cycle until you had pulled bloods. If you were low test then recovery could be a bitch if not impossible but you would never know because you had no baseline.
I still say stop now and recover. With those LH and FSH levels you may not even need a PCT. At most two weeks of clomid at 50mg ED two weeks after your last pin. Then wait 6 to 8 weeks pull bloods and establish your baseline and go from there. You can run some low dose aro for a few weeks of you are really worried about your estro but given how low it is I would probably only do this for 4 weeks max staring from your last pin.
All this time just keep doing what your doing in terms of diet, training and cardio and then when your BF is back down and you know what's what in terms of blood work then reconsider.
Good call bro..
if OP stays on, he gets worse..
Your right, I should have done bloods before anything but I was really down and had absolutly no ambition at all. I'm going to take your advise and discontinue. I was just ambitious to get back to being myself again. I know I was too ambitious and should have done it right but it was hard when it was just waiting for me... Thanks so much for the advise, I had these thoughts myself but it's always easier to do when you have someone else telling you what you need to do regardless if u know better or not.
Thanks again for the reassurance.
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I apologize about not posting a picture. I Don't know how to do that. My bad guys.
Yea I know. I'm trying to correct it
Try post these as a picture mate. Can't make head or tail of them posted like this.