just finished first cycle
I am on week 11 of a test e cycle of 300mg per week, split into two injections per week.
I feel my dosage was low on this cycle, but was a good starting dosage.
I now have everything i need for my second cycle in hand.
Do I need to take any time off before I start my second cycle?
My first cycle was rather small.
If anything, it was a good test to see how my body reacts to the chemicals.
Any advice from experienced people would be appreciated.
I am planning on doing 12 weeks of 450mg/wk of test e (split into 2 injections per week), with 60-80mg of test prop per week (split across EOD injections).
I have a good AI planned for the cycle, and a solid PCT planned.
The big question is, if i don't take a break right now, what is the negative consequence or benefit?
Thanks!
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People keep saying no balls but no one has bothered to tell you the importance of running hCG on cycle to keep your testes functioning !!!!!!!!!!!
@ fast48, why wait till week 4 of a cycle to start aromasin? isn't the whole point of aromasin on cycle, estrogen management and keeping a good ratio of T > E.
Test e reaches peak serum levels 48-72 hrs after first shot, aromatization is immediate and doesnt aromasin also take 7 days to reach steady state serum levels, that means he's almost half way through his cycle before the aromasin is taking effect.
zewiSweet a post i get to go off on.. Lucky me.. I was raging this morning anyway..
Mars.. HCG is important but it isnt a must in an only Test E cycle sur it shuts you down but not nearly has hard as others. And first of all taking HCG on cycle does not keep your testis functioning, it keeps them from shrinking, to allow a faster recovery when you start your PCT.. Also if you do take HCG at the start of your cycle you better start you AI cause guess what genius HCG converts to estor.
Now on to the calling out fast with about the dumbest call out you could have done today. Why cause im in a tren rage moment. it doesnt matter when he starts his Fucking AI as long as he has, it you could wait until you have sides, not everyone needs it and its not like this person had a kicker its Test E. Sur there is some release of aromatization, but we are talking about TEST E not fucking test p.. Test E has a half life about 12-16 days we all know this, however, it also takes 4 weeks before you feel a kick, why do you feel a kick.. Let me tell you why you feel a kick, becaus it actully takes 4-6 weeks, for blood levels of test E to be a constand level, when this happens aromatization is increased, at this time. Sure he can start sooner if he chooses, but there really is no signifacnt benfit in starting early in this type of cycle, so yes Aromasin takes about 4-7 days to kick in and also only last about 34-37 hrs in the body, thats why i like 6.25mg ED...
Go back to the SRC padges wher eyou belong.
Mmmm,
I don't see the need to be offensive, can you not debate like an adult.
1, hcg is an analogue of LH, it keeps the testes functioning, read any report by the endocrinology society or it's pharmacodynamics on leydig and sertoli cells.
2, hcg causes testicular aromatitization via (CYP450) cytochrome p450 and increased dynamics, an AI will not help with this genius as it isn't tissue aromatization, you need nolva.
3,Test E has a biological half life of 4.5-7.5 days +/- variables, check the pharmacokinetics, this is based on a simple formula called psuedo equilibrium dynamics based on it's terminal half life. It's MRT (mean residence time) is only around 12 days lol.
4, 4-6 wks for test e to be at a constant level????? hahaha, read any andrology report with a response release graph.
5, Go back to your foundation course in endocrinology and andrology lol.
You must take 16Weeks break or lose your balls permanently. Do not run your proposed cycle. DO A PROPER FIRST CYCLE.
1-12 test e 500/split
14-18 pct
Aromasin 12.5 12.5 6.75...6.75
Nolva 20...20...10..10
Clomid 100...100..50..50
Aromasin on cycle from week 4 12.5 Ed
Dont think simply adding prop will correct the errors and make something new happen. Fact--you can run just what i posted and grow every time for years. Perfect the REAL first cycle. Why screw up a good thing?
AnonTime on + pct = time off. Run your pct, cutting corners and jumping back on too quick is how people get messed up. Drop the prop and class this next one as your first cycle. Test e 5oomg 250mg x 2 pins a week. Adex 0.25mg e3d then normal pct protocol. Spend the next 3 months off, researching cycles as you are lacking the basic knowledge to keep yourself safe.
Get on PCT
Clomid 100/100/50/50
Nolva 40/40/20/20
Run aromasin now through pct for no rebound effect.
Wait at least 60 days after PCT is over and prepare for what i think is your FIRST OFFICIAL CYCLE, which in ur case should still be a 12 weeker of Test E 500mg a week split dosage also get adex or aro..get diet and training on point bro, dont even relie on the gear so much.
@ 41 if thats really your age.. you should have been prepared man damn. yes you should take time off a good 2 months after a successful PCT. unless you want a nice chance of being on TRT, even though it was a shitty cycle, you still completely shut you balls down... and no prop how u gonna get that right if u cant get a simple test e cycle right damn i hate hearing about shitty cycles thats like doing a couple hundred $ of drugs and passing out 5 min later fckin waste.
that's my age man. no need to lie.
I appreciate the advice.
It sounds like I'm starting my PCT period.
As for not getting my first cycle right; my issue was not having the proper supplies and knowledge before starting.
I have resolved the supply issue and am gaining knowledge everyday.
I'm on this and other forums like it for 3+ hours a day reading and asking questions.
I never had an issue with remember my shots and keeping them timely.
If the EOD isn't an issue for me, do you still suggest I avoid prop, and if so why?
Thanks!