Introduction/8th cycle (first tren run)
Hello fello juice heads new meathead in town:) just going to post some info about myself and my cycle. Ill keep it updated also it will be good so of i have any questions people know a little about me.
My stats: age=31, height= 5"10, weight=240, bodyfat=13%(measured with dexa)
My current cycle: im on day 8 right now
Week 1-10: adex .25mg eod
Week 1-10: test p 50mg everyday
Week 1-8: tren ace 50mg everyday
Week 4-10: mast p 75-100mg everyday
MAYBE week 4-10: var at 100mg everyday or winny at 50.
^^most likely wont add any oral i fkin hate the feeling of popping pills its so unorganized and just makes me feel bad mentally. (except dbol i love that stuff but isnt suitable for a cut)
** got caber on hand but not gonna use it till its needed. By controlling estro i hope to control prolactin
Pct: nolva 40/40/20/20, clomid 50/50/50/50
8 days in i feel the prop already (i know its prop because even my first cycle i did prop never ran long esters). Not feeling tren at all! Hoping i feel something soon. I do good vivid dreams the last couple nights but no sweats infact im a lil colder then usuall. Could be the fact that i diet with 0 carbs some say carbs is a must with tren so tomorrow i will add in 150g all before 2-3pm though.
Stay strong meatheads!
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5'10 240lbs would make you a monster! Those stats are ridiculous. You would be on the same page as Arnold and all the greats if that was your real stats. I am not saying you are bullshitting but unless you are build like a brick shit house and to get to that level you should know all this already. I would check that bf% again. Running masteron and var is only good if your bf% is low enough. Just don't want you pissing away hard earned cash on compounds that can't help because your bf% is to high.Other than that those stats are impressive. My rule with drugs like masteron var winny primo, always below 10%bf to get maximum effects. Me personally I do 8%
As far as masteron and var goes i agree. Which is why i said maybe var later so in the next 4 weeks i can get to 10 before i start. I alao do beilive var is fine at 12% and reason being is ppl think they are way leaner then they really are. Mostnppl who think they are 10% are 12. Look at abdomintor on the forums he has pics and at 12% hes ripped
It sounds like you got at good head on your shoulders and know exactly how to achieve your goals. That is a refreshing change from most newbies around here. First off Welcome and second stay way from the tren. IMO just not worth it.
Hey man, you are 100% right my height/weight is crazy but you gotta know organs and other internal body parts make up alot of weight aswell. Have you not seen 2 ppl who are same bodyweight and height look the exact same but their is a 20-30lbs difference. I alao have a ghetto booty aha:) as fat as questioning my knowledge on aas you are right i dont know everything, but its not the steroids that built me it was my diet and the sacrificies i made since i was a young boy and started training
No other comments?
zewi"8 days in i feel the prop already (i know its prop because even my first cycle i did prop never ran long esters). Not feeling tren at all! ""
How the fuck do you no???
Ive just come across this post... cycle is started so thats that!... at your weight i would up your daily dosage to prop @ 100mg tren @100mg mast @200mg... this would give far better results and make the cycle worthwhile,regarding carbs find your own sweet spot but i prefer a max of 50 grams all before lunch time if possible.... regarding PCT i dont use it so you do what works best for yourself bro... as for pinning you probably have your favourite spots for me on short runs it would be nothing but delts and pecs the pump i get is fkn extreme from these muscle groups the whole upper body goes a blackish/purple i fkn love it.
1.4grams of mast a week?!?
They are all short esters bro you dont count it the same as longs... huh you been under a stone or what!
Im being honest i have no idea what your talking about...pleae ellabrate i would love to learn. I thought say 100mg/ml of prop is more mg for mg then long esters
zewiI'll give you my comment--i dont like it.
And why dont you like it? I was reading the posts its funny how people have set guidelines on this site 10cycles or no tren all of YOU ran it before 10
zewino thats not why i don't like it..
I don't like the fact you have never ran Tren and you decide to run tren,mast p and anavar all in one cycle.
Instead of just keeping it a simple run with tren and test p and try and understand how tren works. Tren and test go after the same receptors, and tren will always win.. IMO the dose is wrong to start off with.
Yes i have mast, anavar in their because i kno how i react to it so if i get aides i lnow its tren. Yes test and tren do compete for the same reciptor and tren wins however the idea that the extra test will float around being useless is a new bro science "fad". Only truth to it is the lower the test the less sides but having 1:1 ratio will give u better fat burning, better strength and especially endurance. Considering tren kills cardio and test helps it
zewiyes at the right dose. IMO you should start at atleast 75/75 if not 100/100 and work from there 100/100 if no sides lower the test by 25 or increase the tren by 25..
Actually if the test is not being used it will convert to estro if you do not have an ai and if the test is two high you will get more sides... thats broscience
So your telling me 50mg of test ace everyday is not 350mg a week? Why such high doses...explain PLEASE
Read this it should help explain about the short esters bro....
http://www.eroids.com/forum/general/general-talk/test-prop-and-counting-...
Ok i read it so ill up my test/tren/mast to 100mg everyday for now sound good? Ima just switch to the blends so i can do 2cc. If i do it like i am now it will be 3cc.btw for pecs can they take 2cc or shouldi do 1cc left 1cc right? My current everyday site rotation is left glute,right glute, left quad,roght quad, left delt, and right delt.
Good stuff bro,glad you are happy now... pin whatever you find best bro i mentioned delts and pecs cos thats my favourite they can take 2ml but when i get down for stage work i dont put more than 1ml in each muscle to save any lumps from the oil resovior... do the 1ml shots see how you go if your gear is good PH balanced stuff you should have zero PIP.... good luck with the run let us know how the gains/cuts come along ok.
Just pinned 1cc left pec and 1cc right pec. Used 25g 1 inch. Do u find with tren it stings right after injection and i dnt mean PIP like a lil hot feeling in the site for a couple hours. I heard it could be do to the bz or something they use for tren ace..do u get tht also
Yeah it does sting for a little while but i dont class that as PIP due to it being your first time with tren it may try to reject it but persist bro after a few days all will be good.... wait till your train yous gonna fkn love that pump bro lol.
Speaking of the pump chest day tomorrow hopefully i will feel something:) btw man thanks alot for your quick replys and helping me out. Ima add u as a friend if thats cool?
No problem brother...anytime, glad to be of some help here
zewii never said it wasn't 350mg... im just telling you u need the up the dose of the tren and test p...
But why say i do 100:100 thats 700mg tren and test a week isnt that alot bro? Also i appreciate you helping me man, viking mentioned something above about short esters read that i would appreciate it if one of you two could clearly explain why such high doses for ahort esters but not long
Its all about ester half lives bro..read the link i put up just above it will save a thousand words in here that should make it alot clearer for you ok
cdaddy7My question to u bro is this....have u exhausted and plateaued at all three points of this equation to warrant the use of Tren now.....with that i mean your diet/nutrition, training and compound cycles?....with my experiences this is over ten cycles not eight.....what is warranting the use of this compound so early? Are u planning on professionally bodybuilding? Do u know all the risks in volved and what this compound can do if not handled with care? Have u weighed all ur options out at this point....research and consider my man
I have researched brother. Yes diet/nutrition have been spot on from when i was 15. I was d1 wrestler and it required spot on diet/nutrition and macro timing. As far as exhuasting compounds you are right 10-12 should be the point then you start tren however when i ran my first cycle i was neive and did test prop/dbol/deca so i really never started with a good base cycle which should be test only. Regardless of that i dont want to compete but that doesnt mean i dont wanna look huge. Im in it for arnies look not heath or cutler
I think you need to taper your clomid to 50-50-25-25...Everyone I know always has some rebound if they drop off that hard. Especially since your nolva is high as well. No hcg?
It's normally ran 100-100-50-50.
Thanks for your opinion. But im not changing my pct i have succesfully recovered all prev 7 cycles. And no never used hcg never well. The less shit i put in my body the better. I function just fine without it.
Do what you do bro. I'm just lookin out.
Appreciate it man:)