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posted Thu, 09/13/2012 - 16:03

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Insane PIP and test flu within 4 hours

Just pinned Test E 250mg mg and Test P 100mg into my right thigh today 1ml each. First of a 12 week cycle.
Insane PIP can't walk lol and flu like symptoms within hours. Eating dinner out then BOOM!!! Family in summer clothes I'm dressed for blizzard on my couch cant lie on my right side hahaha
I didn't think it would hit so soon (the flu) and the PIP is crazy. Maybe I injected wrong. Using 25g needles had to push the syringe so hard might need 23g instead next time and go even slower. Took about 55 sec to pump 2ml.. Might take 2min next time.

Either this shit is PURE FIRE or I'm a clutz with the needle. Probably both :( Munching Vitamin C lollies as I type

The Wimp.

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vascular
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09/15/2012 - 06:41

Just as a lesson learned - found a great post:
http://www.eroids.com/forum/steroids-qa/anabolic-steroids/causes-and-sol...

SickNick15
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09/14/2012 - 17:35

well the pip is definitely from the injection, however the flu? I very highly doubt that the flu is from your shot of test considering it was taken a mere four hours before it started. I am pretty sure it is just a very shitty coincidence, other than the pip.

~~1jakd_hipy~~
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SickNick15
09/15/2012 - 06:58

"test flu" is caused by your body reacting to it like an infection so it is very possible that it came on that quick

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SickNick15
09/14/2012 - 20:29

That's what I thought about the flu myself SickNick15 - but Zewi/Fast and co. said I may have fast tracked the oil into the bloodstream by forcing so much into one area in such little time - bringing on an almost instant immune shutdown. I feel better today... less weak. Can't wait to hit the gym tomorrow!!!!

vascular
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09/14/2012 - 13:59

Still insanely sore in my right quad. Fever still there too but kinda subsiding. Got my next Test Prop 1ml jab tomorrow. Is 1ml into my delt OK for prop? I can't be limping like this another week lol.

~~zewi~~
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vascular
09/14/2012 - 14:18

I can't be limping like this another week lol.--o you will you have a few more days brother.

~~cdaddy7~~
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vascular
09/14/2012 - 14:02

I always use my delt when I know that its goin to be PIP involved...My shoulders seem to handle it better and I don't hurt or swell nearly as bad the other spot is the ventrogluteal

Nitti
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cdaddy7
09/14/2012 - 15:07

X2
I always pin shorties in my delts. Use a 1" pin and bury it. You don't wanna make the mistake I made. Using 27x1/2" pins in my delts. So close to the surface for so long I have a shit ton of scar tissue. I bury a 1" now. No pip

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Nitti
09/14/2012 - 20:28

Nitti you use 25x1' on your delts? Those are the pins I have. I'm using the same for my quad and my glute.

~~cdaddy7~~
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Nitti
09/14/2012 - 15:11

Hell yeah, thats right, I remember when i first started using my delts.....it was like warm Apple pie!!! LOL makes a big damn difference

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cdaddy7
09/14/2012 - 16:29

Boys how about aspirating? I find it tough to aspirated with one hand. Do u guys just aspirate with one hand when pinning delts?

Roid Noid
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09/14/2012 - 17:00

ofcourse bro! youll figure it out just got to play with it a little to get your own style

kinda like back when you where 14 or so! LOL

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Roid Noid
09/14/2012 - 20:26

lol!!!!!!! hahaha

~~zewi~~
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vascular
09/14/2012 - 17:01

yes.. it just takes practice. Brother.---practice without a needle just the syringe.

adonis_1
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zewi
09/14/2012 - 17:03

Great idea!

~~zewi~~
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adonis_1
09/14/2012 - 17:04

the only kind i have... lol

adonis_1
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vascular
09/14/2012 - 16:58

Yeah. It sucks but i would suppose it gets better the more u do it. That was my first site i used.

~~1jakd_hipy~~
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09/13/2012 - 17:00

Emergen-C and Ibuprofen worked for me as far as the PIP you're fucked chalk it up as lesson learned and next time pinning virgin muscle don't put 2cc's in it with the exception of glutes. Quads are kind of a bitch and definitely a muscle you need to pin in the morning, I've pinned them quite a bit and still get the peg leg every once in a while

~~Anon~~
09/13/2012 - 17:00

go soak in tube with hottest water you can handle this helps with pip a bit! next time use 23g and heat oils inject slow dont wiggle like nnetion by others and then go soak in tube of hot water it helps oils soak into muscle !

killroy
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09/13/2012 - 16:50

Did I miss something? No one noticed this guy just pinned 1 ml of 250mg Test E + 1 ml of 100mg Test P into a virgin quad muscle? Hell even with the world's greatest injection technique he`ll still have PIP!

~~zewi~~
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killroy
09/13/2012 - 16:52

it happens to us all.

~~zewi~~
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09/13/2012 - 16:41

JUST FOR KNOWLEDGE----
WHAT IS A bolus someone asked. so now you all no--cause uncle Zewi cares..lol

bolus increases the concentration of a steriod(or drug) in the blood stream---

what happens is when you have to push hard and fast--it hits the blood stream real fast--thats why when you are sick the penicillin shot is stuck in your ass or arm and injected quickly when this happens--it hits your blood stream much faster than when you take your time, and let the body absorb it.

So the test hit his blood stream a lot faster causing the reaction to happen so fast.

lp_chops
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zewi
09/13/2012 - 16:44

Nice to know! Thx

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09/13/2012 - 16:35

Thanks vets. Fark what would I do without this site man lol. I'm a little delirious, so time for a hot bath then heat pad and an early night. Appreciate the support knuckleheads.

~~zewi~~
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vascular
09/13/2012 - 16:37

ANYTIME!!---Just so you know, odds of you walking without a limp tomorrow are very slim like

0%

... have a goodnight

foxracing13
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zewi
09/13/2012 - 16:39

Should you use a 1" or a 5/8 long needle for quads.

~~zewi~~
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foxracing13
09/13/2012 - 16:40

I use a 1 inch.

lp_chops
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09/13/2012 - 16:18

I feel your pain brother. I hit my left quad for the first time this week 23g 1" needle (had only hit glutes prior) and its a much more noticeable pain when walking than my glutes. My next cycle is going to include short esters so I am practicing hitting multiple spots this cycle to know what to expect. Next will be delts. I always find running the gear under hot water helps tremendously. I hope your test flu subsides quick, I have yet to experience that.

foxracing13
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lp_chops
09/13/2012 - 16:37

I draw oils then heat syringe with hair dryer. Inject slowly and keep very still do not move around while Injecting.

lp_chops
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foxracing13
09/13/2012 - 16:39

That works too! Maybe I should buy a hair dryer lol. That would be pretty funny considering I have no hair

~~zewi~~
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foxracing13
09/13/2012 - 16:38

I usally just sit at the computer and roll it in my hand while im on here, for about 15 minutes.

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lp_chops
09/13/2012 - 16:24

Thanks bro!

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09/13/2012 - 16:16

Guys tips on how to heat oil? Running syringe under hot water doesn't seem right, tough to stay sterile....

fast48
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09/13/2012 - 16:24

I have double shot glass/rocks glass. Set vials in hottest tap water bout two mins. Not enough to be HOT....warm will let oil flow better.

Blowdryer works as suggested too. Just alcohol swab rubbers prior to poking

adonis_1
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vascular
09/13/2012 - 16:19

Use a hair dryer on the vial for a few minutes before u draw up.

~~zewi~~
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adonis_1
09/13/2012 - 16:20

yepres

RickRock1086
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vascular
09/13/2012 - 16:18

Just get hot water from the sink(As hot as you can get it) and put the 10ml vial or 1ml vial in the water & leave it there for a few mins!

RickRock1086
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09/13/2012 - 16:15

You will be fine,1. Next time don't shove the needle or push it hard 2. Do not inject all the oil in one muscle 3. Heat the oil up for a few mins before pinning.

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RickRock1086
09/13/2012 - 16:23

Also there is conflicting info do we massage the injection area or not?

RickRock1086
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vascular
09/13/2012 - 16:24

No hell no bro!

~~zewi~~
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vascular
09/13/2012 - 16:24

NO YOU PUSH HARD....

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zewi
09/13/2012 - 16:29

Zewi are you being serious? Push hard on the injection area? Wtf I'm confused. Or u being sarcastic? Haha

~~zewi~~
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vascular
09/13/2012 - 16:32

You don't massage---once you inject and pull out you push hard on that spot you just injected and then shake your muscle around not massage, because of scar tissue And more PIP.

fast48
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09/13/2012 - 16:31

Massaging causes worse pip. Pressing hard is the right way. Use heating pad now to help the pain

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fast48
09/13/2012 - 16:36

Add that to another rookie mistake Fast/Zewi what a farking train wreck lol will do better on the next round.

~~cdaddy7~~
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09/13/2012 - 16:13

My OTC remedy is Vitamin C 4000mg in two split doses (2000mg in AM , 2000mg in PM) a day and Zinc 100mg in two split doses (50mg in AM, 50mg in PM) for a week and drop the dosages in half until symptoms subside. Drink plenty of water to ensure hydration which will also aid in recovery. Now my theory of PIP, bc there are gazillions, is the crystallization of the gear in the muscle after the rapid absorption of the of the oil. The melting point is high on the dissolution of the crystals. That's y heating pad or hot bath. Second part, ur immune system sees this rise in hormones and it is trying to kill it to return to homeostasis...this remedy will help boost your immune system until it adjust to the increased levels which are in turn weakening your immune system