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+ 2 How much tren do you really need?

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After 23 years of AAS use I used tren for the first time last year. 400mg per week and I could feel the potency of that compound. I wasn't sure if I'd use it again with the bacne, prostate and cholesterol issues but I'm finding it impossible to push through 130kg (287 pounds) so I'm doing another 10 week cycle. This time I've dropped the dose back to 350mg per week but I've bumped the test up (for more details please read my current stats).

When it's time to use tren because you've hit a plateau with test, Eq and deca just how much tren do you really need? I'd like to get a least 2 kg of muscle in the next 10 weeks and I might push the dose to 500mg per week for a second cycle later this year if the sides are tolerable.

SenseiMiagi's picture

75mg ED is as high as I ever went years ago. I always ran it with fairly high Test and loved the weight and ridiculous strength I got off it. This is before we knew much about Tren, except that it was bad ass and easy to make.

This is when I was weighing 300ish lbs. Agree with the rest about estro... everything helps when trying to bulk.

Pauly B Train's picture

I find between 80-100mg ED is my sweet spot, any higher and I don't see anymore changes in lean growth, just more sides and having to increase my caber dosage.

Highest iv gone before I decided I'm just wasting oil was 150mg Ed for around 2-3 weeks, even then I don't think it's worth it, just pissing it out and my urine looked like I'd been drinking rusty water. Definately need to run Cystone tabs and Saw Palmentto while on it.

TheFlash85's picture

good to finally see a fellow aussie post in forum! the dosage depends on your goal and how you tolerate sides, there the whole fighting for receptor thing, but to be honest, i find that running your test higher than your tren, you see better results and gain more weight, tren does not aromatise, test does, feel the power of estrogen, you need it for power, weight and strength, im not saying let your estro run high at all lol, but some is good, running your test higher than tren will bulk you up more than running it lower, if your running long esthers, i would go test-750, tren 500, make sure you got your ai on hand aswell as your caber, prami or bromo, make sure you are smashing saw palmetto for your prostate bro, preload that shit and run it through cycle and atleast 2-3 months after, as for cholesterol there a few ways to look after that.

irongame427's picture

A lot of people don't understand the power of estrogen. It's critical for muscle growth and not to mention it's effects on raising gh and igf-1 levels. Im running low test high tren now but after reading your post I'm thinking about bumping up my test. Might send you a pm and get your thoughts on my cycle and goals. Fr sent

Catalyst's picture

"It's critical for muscle growth and not to mention it's effects on raising gh and igf-1 levels"

That's why on a pure bulk I intentionally let me estro creep up at touch.

irongame427's picture

Me to, I'll run proviron to help keep it down a bit and offset the rise in shbg high e2 causes as well as help with libido. But I always have pharm grade letro Adex and nolva on hand just in case. just for bulks tho. When cutting I try go keep it lower to stay drier and harder.

Catalyst's picture

Yep, that's the way to do it. You know from behind the scenes how I do it.

MedDx's picture

Could titrate tren based off prolactin blood work, like u mentioned, as well as, monitoring the decrease in BF% and increase in weight, while lowering dose, administration frequencies, alternating tren esters and AAS compounds that promote synergy with tren. You may even benefit from Proviron, too.
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Pale's picture

I take it you are running tren E or hex? Honestly as powerful as tren is I don't believe you need much at all.

MedDx's picture

Agreed...his BW is primary and key to successful gains, while using tren. All the other factors like diet, cardio, stress management, etc are too. Definitely as low-dose as possible.

TrenjaminFranklin's picture

What are you running your test at?