-2 How much is too much?
Ok let me start with saying, if this has already been addressed I apologize in advanced. I have searched the site in every way I could think of to try and find a forum on this topic and came up with nothing. So if I just missed it, keep your smart comments to yourself, I did look prior. And let's be honest, no one takes a keyboard commando seriously.
Now to the point, How much is too much for one injection/injection site? I've heard no more than 2ml per large muscle, like the quads or glutes, and no more than 1.5 for small muscles like Delts. I've mostly kept with the 2ml rule til recently . I started using 3ml, Mon/wed/fri in my quads. Other than the extra little bit of soreness I haven't had any issues so far. I'm using 23g 1".
So I'm just curious what everyone else opinion is on this topic.
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Enough or your gone. Rusty you've made your point. No need for you two to keep it going. Not everyone here needs to like each other but I will not have our board get cluttered up with bullshit and arguing like fucking children. Agreed? If not hit the door, not everyone will get along but I will not have our board full of forum posts that look like teenagers argued back and forth over who's cock hangs lower.
I think you want to wind your fucking neck in and pay some respect before you submit another comment
I can see where this is going... Word of advice for (anyone) who has been here like a week... you don't just show up at someone elses house and start swinging your dick. Earn some respect around here before you start talking trash or the door could hit you in the ass real quick... then you end up all butt hurt and angry making new acct after new acct, it just gets embarrassing... there are a lot of good guys up in here who have earned their spot and should be treated as such
My .02
I with you 100%, if you look at all my post, they've been very respectful & non-dick swinging I might add. He came on here being a dueche bag when everyone else was very informative. The op said, this is what I've been taught, what are some other opinions not , hey I know eveything, look at me look at me! But there's always that one guy who needs to feel important, and the same name keeps popping up in every thread I read was the same style responses. But hey that's yalls boy and choice. My life rolls forward with or without it. I'm hear to learn as much as possible, if not I'll learn it elsewhere. All I can say to Mr hooker is its a joke me not a dick, quit taking it so hard, well its mostly a joke, regardless its not a dick...
But sorry if anyone else was offended by what I said, and that's an honest statement.
RustyhookerThat's pretty damn nasty las, but other than the grotesque factor, (which is a nice touch I'll add) what am I supposed gain from this?
Can you push more then 3ml in any site? Sure you can. Should you? No unless its your glute. Anything up to and over 5ml not in your glutes is asking for an absess regardless of how experienced you are. I researched the shit out of this and I also researched medical journals. 1.5-2ml max in delts, 1ml max in triceps, biceps, traps, calves. 2.5ml max in quads. 5ml max in glutes and laterulis or however its spelled. the quads are also dependant on where, lower hamstring area or side can take 3ml but thats last resort. Here is a few articles on this
http://www.oncologynurseadvisor.com/chemotherapy/large-volume-im-injecti...
Hey thanks for the great info and resource man! That's what I really like, resources to go with the info so you can research and form an opinion for yourself. Now could you expand on pinning tris, bis , lats? I've never given these spots any thought. Where do you pin, how do you find the right spot etc. Thanks again
Spotinjections.com
Sweet! Thanks!
I never pinned those areas, I pinned my calf once......never will I do that again. To top it off it was high mg gear with eo as the base. I used my wife's old crutch to get around the house. Some of these guys have pinned their tri and bi as well as chest and lats, they could chime in.
RustyhookerQuads only, sounds like a good setup for a cyst. Oops, good rotation might be smart assed to say.
Click my avi. Read the pip forums. Google cellulitis pictures. That answer it for ya?
In some muscles u can inject 3. Pushing 2 in is ideal for all. It depends...in case of abcess, i wouldnt want too much in muscle. But if compound is clean, i would max out at 3 if the larger groups of muscle would take it.
Can u post BF% please?
2ml into a bicep / tricep / calf? I wouldn't....
I've done 1 1/2 to 1 3/4 regularly I've done more but those are what I do regularly in my bis and tris but let me add when I site inject I do it for a reason. For example if I hit bis I inject an hour before the gym than I hit the site injected muscle hard in the gym , get some real blow flow and emphasize the fascia stretching for maximum muscle breakdown , then I hit the food hard like always. Never had a problem but many things come into factor here. The fact that the specific sites I hit aren't small and I've worked up to it and I don't just throw any gear in there as I don't use just any run of the mill cheap shit. The calves I hit outer and inner heads half a cc in each sometimes a touch more then I fucking pound them in the gym relentlessly , might I add its not for the weak hearted and you have to become one with pain =). I obviously started off small with all my sites and everyone has the limit and I've tested mine , I certainly wouldn't suggest it to others and I would also add virgin muscle pip in your calves , bis , tris , traps , lats , and forearms and the likes are nothing nice. I use all the possible sites in rotation as I do not believe in high mg gear with EO and the likes fucking poison. That's just my take on it and I also know my body.
Yea...i wouldnt either Cat....lol!! Those muscles arent for injections...at least we never learned that....lmfao!!
Nothing wrong with bis and tris mate, give them a go. It's when you start having to use forearms it becomes more challenging. Not personally a fan of using calves, but plenty do.
I know guys and girls inject those spots and many more, like the traps and even forearms. I will talk to ya in PM...and i am not a fan of calves either...lol
Noid used to like pinning calves. Cripples me, literally. Years ago used to inject them pre contest with what is effectively a muscle irritant to make them look fuller. Oh the pain..... Vike will no doubt remember, must of us taller guys have done it, usually only once!
Talking about Escilene here............. holy shit never again, put 2/3ins on my calves though..... but 3 days of fire like pain is NOT worth it.
Just talking about it has made my calves hurt. almost made my calves presentable though....
i dont think that stuff is available these days ???
Its still out there couple guys I know use it. I'm all set myself.
Been there done that nothing nice. Italian used it also not my bag I'm all set lol. I'd rather site inject pound on it and get the growth than use that painful shit.
Was that synthol? I read about that in the late 80s...i have a messed up calf from injecting 1cc of nandro deca in it...back when i was 17...it was a 21g 1.5"....but i went it about half way....kids do stupid things...
Not synthol, these were actual irritants. This stuff seriously hurt.
Esiclene I'm guessing?
Yes.
Geez..probably mosquito venom...lol
Edit: maybe Formebolone?
FR sent.
RustyhookerHe's using only quads. The muscles are getting cooked by the Solvents. Many different methods
If you think 2 weeks cooks the muscles I think perhaps you're too used to using substandard gear. Try better quality scooter.
Now that we've both effectively measured our dicks, move on. I said it wasn't very smart myself, just lazy. And I've only done it the last 2 weeks so get informed prior to forming an opinion. The topic is max safe volume per IMI.
RustyhookerNice blast of science there bottom dweller. Good thing your immensely huge thesaurus of anabolic knowledge brought you here.
So knowledgeable to ask the smallest most basic questions. Thank gawd you blessed us by allowing the chance to offer up meager tidbits.
Too bad in your ignorance you haven't read and forums about safe ml per injects. Not even the shed of a clue to what cooks the mitochondria. But no no sir, your excellence is far pitched to a higher calling.
Nothing like a bone head to ask and bite. Smug lil bastard.
On no... You... You.. You really hurt my feelings!! :'(( oh wait, never mind. I'm here to learn from knowledgable , more experienced BB, not worry about a self important twat that trolls around trying to make himself feel superior through a keyboard. I have a wife, kids, job, life, and no time to waste on a battle of wits with a clearly unarmed opponent. If you took the time to retrieve your head from your ass you'd realize I've not once claimed to be anything special or massively experienced in anything. I come humbling asking and reading to learn and better myself. Those who are truly knowledgeable and truly experts show it. Not through gloating or trying "ride the down trotten" even further in order to hoist themselves higher, (that's you just FYI in case you haven't been able to keep up) but through teaching and sharing their wealth of knowledge in a way that helps people, without degrading them for trying to better themselves. Sad thing is, you probably think you super cool BC you can shit talk behind a computer screen, which is laughable in itself, but for the rest of us, there's real life away from the keyboard, so have fun cunt! Lmao
RustyhookerYes master
Sweet, brother.....sweet...and one of the best of Rusty's....love it!!
How often should a person wait to pin the same spot again. Lets say pins were 2 times a week. If the first pin was right glute on monday, how many rotations would you go before you came back to the right glute.
7 day minimum, 10 days is best practice. Even 7 days sometimes could be bad if injecting into smaller muscles like delts when using 1.5ml or more. Its case by case or if you have large delts and train the fuck out of them.
RustyhookerThe basic 500 mg you can get away with just glutes. Monday...thursday. that's a week between pins and 1 cc absorbs nicely. 2 compounds and I'm hitting glutes and quads. 1cc monday. 1 cc tuesday. 1 cc Thurs. 1 cc friday. Just an example. With 4 points you can adjust cc up a bit and not stress to much. On a complex run with 2 longs and 2 shorts I'm hitting 10 spots with every day pins. More complex and I add 4 more spots.
Glutes...ventro glutes (there's a difference).
Outer quad 3 separate spots as needed
Intermedius quad.
delts..front mid and rear
Middle triceps.
There's 20 1 cc spots.
My response was directed toward OPs question regarding large muscles and how 3cc would work, but 2cc is ideal for all...meaning large muscles. OP never mentioned anything about biceps, triceps or calves...lol!!
Those arent the preferred injection sites that medical professionals use anyway.
RustyhookerI understand. Disagree but understand.
Here's the op quote from below which is bad regardless.
"I've gotten a little complacent on my injection sites, only using quads lately. "
I know. I should have been more specific in muscle clarification.
Stats
Age: 27
Height: 5'7 1/2"
Weight: 205
BF:
386 times 6 = 2316, sorry had to put a smart comment.
depends on the oil and muscle size mate, i can do 5ml in quads and glutes no worries.
i would say 3 ml would be the norm though for larger muscles, 1- 2ml for smaller.
7 days inbetween muscles buddy, you need more rotation before disaster, try using 25g 1 inch, its easier and less pain.
cycle history/ what are you slanging?
I tried to get 25g but they were out, 23 was the closest they had in 1" but I definetly agree. This is the finish of my fifth full cycle, I usually run 16 weeks of a combo typically consisting of some sort of test/DECA/tren and 8-10 week cut cycle of test/Winny/clen/& some harder (mast) and 8 week cjc-1295, sermolin & letrozole. I'm currently running BM and GP pharma. This is my first round with these brands, I was a long time D-Hacks client. Loved his gear but that's gone lol.
I've gotten a little complacent on my injection sites, only using quads lately. I'm using real good about rotating quads / glutes and alternating sides. But I can't use delts anymore, my gear kept running back out and glutes are harder to reach lol. I just got lazy I guess. I need to start rotating my glutes in.
when i was younger i used 23 1inch all the time- my delts turned into crunchy scar tissue, 25g 1 inch and even slin pins have done wonders for me.
7 days between muscle mate, gotta rotate.
delts, ventros, glutes, quads, theres 8 easy muscle right there.
quads and glutes- 3mls max unless big and experienced
delts- 1-2mls
ventros-1-2mls
triceps- 1.5ml
biceps- 1ml
calves 1ml
lats- 1-2 mls
traps- 1.5 mls
pecs-1.5 mls
general guid- the bigger the muscles you have the more oil you can handle.
less is better of course.
I shoudve been more specific about the quads too, I use both large (outer and intermeddle) muscles, so its not exactly the same spot over and over and over BUT I is way too often. One question, why do you suggest 7 days minimum between pins? I've always figured around 5or so days was sufficient but I've never looked into it all or had anything to back up that assumption other than personal use and lack of soreness. I'm interested in some good factual info since I have none lol.
About the guidelines of what I follow too. +1
Interesting, I've never given much thought to any muscles other than delts, quads, and glutes. Thanks for the info!