HGH - low Test E cycle, bad blood work
Hey everyone, I need some help here
I've been taking HGH for 2 months and I'm currently doing 5UI/day, 5 on-2off. 7 weeks ago I started pinning 400mg of Test E/ week. Besides some annoying gyno that I've been trying to control with Aromasin which I actually started taking at 5mgs eod before I got the symptoms, I haven't gotten any gains, not a pound, physical changes or changes in libido, nothing that I did not get from the HGH, in fact, I do look a bit worse. Some hair loss, a bit of bloating (5'9, 180, 9% bf, 30y/o) but no weight gain.
Last Friday I went to get some blood work done mid-cycle and here are my results.
Testosterone,Free and Total REF
Testosterone, Serum 595 ng/dL 348 - 1197 01
Free Testosterone(Direct) 22.6 pg/mL 8.7 - 25.1 02
Estradiol, Sensitive 42.2 High pg/mL 8.0 - 35.0 02
BTW, this is my 1st ever test cycle.
Question: Are these normal? My test should be around 1500-2000, right? Before I started taking the Test E, my test was 550..
All I can think of is that this gear is fake. What should I do now? Go straight to PCT? Get another source?
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Age: 30
Height: 5'9
Weight: 180
BF:???
Please update your BF. So a few questions from me. What were your baseline/pre-cycle blood work numbers and did you have "gyno" before your started your cycle and what were/are your symptoms? Did you get LH and FSH numbers done. If so please post these. We can go from there.
BF: 9%
LH: 9,2 UI/L
FSH: 2,3 UI/L
I'm very prone to gyno, problem is that it's has been fluctuating since I started using Aromasin to compensate for this "cycle".
The real question here is, my testosterone levels should be high enough with the Test E 400mg/week or not?
your test is bunk. Your LH/FSH should be almost zero. That coupled with your normal test reading confirms bunk test. The good thing is that you are not shut down so no pct required right now. Stop the Asin also. Now you have a chance to get your training and nutrition back on track before you start a cycle.
Post the bloodwork with product brand name in the pic section so others know to watch out for that product.
Don't forget the fact that he is taking his aromasin at 5mg EOD and still has high E2 numbers, either the Aromasin is bunk too or obviously he is not taking it properly.
He is going to have to wipe the slate clean and start over with a fresh batch of everything because nothing seems to be working.
Yeah, definitely..
I give him kudos for at least getting a blood test. Although unfortunately it was almost at the end of the bad cycle. NOW I hope others see why it is important to draw bloods in the middle and at the beginning and end of a cycle.
It was middle of the cycle, it was supposed to be 12 weeks, this is my 7th and drew last Thursday before last week's injection.
Something definitely isn't right here. LH/FSH would be a huge help in knowing what is going on.
What really has me concerned though is that after 7 wks you seeing absolutely no gains. This has me thinking that your diet and training are severely lacking. 7 weeks of a structured diet and training program regardless if steroids are in the picture should have you making some quality gains. So, don't be blaming everything on bunk gear because you should be making gains regardless, with or without gear. I see it time and time again everyone quick to jump to the conclusion of bunk gear when it the diet and training that are bunk. Steroids can't make something out of nothing. With that said, it would also be helpful to get an idea of your training and diet (cals, macros).
My main concern here is about where I should be on my Test levels and what should I do in this case from now on, considering what I've been using and my lab results. I don't require help with my diet and training, I would have posted in the right topic otherwise.
Thanks
Yea you do need help because after 7 weeks you haven't made any progress. Sirens and fireworks should be going off telling you that. So you tell me why you haven't made any gains in 7 wks?
I didn't change my diet to get the gains from the cycle mainly.
currently at 3500 calories 40-30-30, which are my maintenance levels and I'm on HGH 5UI/day which keeps me from getting fat.
I just gained back 10 pounds that I lost after traveling for a while, before starting the cycle. This has stayed stable with the above numbers but then started the cycle and no gains at all. Not only that, I've been doing some damage with Aromasin in the meantime considering that the gear is bunk,
So why even attempt a cycle then if you aren't going to modify your diet at all? Like I said before steroids can't build something from nothing. Not sure what you were expecting.
RustyhookerThis guys just too smart for us old farts. Smh....
I need to take my ball and play somewhere else.
My diet is in good numbers to make gains from a cycle considering my numbers, I'm not looking to make huge gains from one nor to eat more than I'm actually eating, it is not my thing.
I tried this cycle to make a shortcut to get bigger and then cut to a nice looking physique without gorging myself. I was looking pretty nice and making slow gains with the HGH only but since I started this gear it all went downhill, either the test was something else or the Aromasin has been affecting me as well.
RustyhookerListen kid.... makwa knows his shit. You second guessing the obvious shows your ignorance. Ive seen his pix and trophies. What you got? You're here lost with your head up your ass. And you'll eventually burn any help you need
Mate listen to what we are telling you. You cannot grow or get bigger if you do not talk in enough calories. It's as simple as that. No amount of drugs in the world will do this. Only food and the correct muscle stimulus will do this. Aas is a supplement not a replacement for diet and training. In what world did you think you would grow if you eat at maintenance? I don't think the test was anything else. If it was your LH/FSH/test numbers would be completely shit down. Your high estro sides are not caused by the bunk test or it being anything else. If you want help with your nutrition and training there are plenty of folk here (including me) who can help you.
I'm not looking for a remote trainer, unfortunately.. But thanks for your help, much appreciated.
Hopefully he takes you up on the offer.
Bud, I'm not looking for a remote trainer at all...
RustyhookerKid needs a fresh start. Everythings wonky here :(
At least he did bloods. I know you can train him...no doubts