posted Mon, 06/19/2017 - 14:42
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Help with first cycle please
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Hi, I'm planning on ordering my first cycle of test c. Trying 300mg 1cc twice a week for 12 weeks. Possibly stacking with winny. Then pct with Clomid and Nov. Any cycle dosage help would be appreciated. I've done a lot of reading about this but still am concerned if I'm planning on doing it correctly. I'm 31 years old. 6' and 200 lbs. My diet is pretty strict right now consisting of high protein and low carbs.
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No crossfit. I do weight training and currently doing hiit on treadmill 3 days a week until I get down to around 12% bf. Ill bump up protein and such. For the added protein should I eat a bit more chicken per meal or could a quick whey shake suffice?
I'd stay away from adding another shake, like mentioned below, add in some fish or another lean protein meat......increasing the cardio to 5 times a week would be a big plus as well
Currently I'm on a fat loss plan..trying to lose as much bf as possible before I start my first cycle. I take in around 3000 calories 200p 200c and 50-60fats. I despise eggs so I'm doing 5oz 93% beef burger, cup of broccoli and double protein muffin for breakfast. Gym around 9am then post whey shake with cup of oatmeal. Lunch is 6oz chicken and cup of broccoli and 1.5 oz almonds. Snack around 330pm is can of tuna and whole wheat tortilla. Dinner is same as lunch but add tablespoon of coconut oil. Then 1/3 cup of cottage cheese a bit before bed. I plan on bumping all of this up when I start cycle. Any thoughts on how much I should take in and any types of foods?
Just an FYI...at those macros your cal intake is 2100 not 3000.....that's a big difference, you mite do some recalculating there
IMO I would say your protein is a bit low, I'd stay 1.25-1.5g per lb of body weight,
Fats seem a bit low also, adding in fish, avacodos can bring the healthy fats up
As far as carbs go, I personally don't eat any carbs after noon except for in veggies, I workout first thing in the morn so I'll eat oatmeal and a piece of fruit pre, and fiber toast n peanut butter post..rest of the day is veggies, protein, healthy fats...
Cardio up since your in a fat loss stage here!...
Rustyhooker+2 ...on point.
Whats op's gym plan? Lifting hard so body is ready? Crossfit etc?
If op stats are accurate, then going from 15%bf to 12 or 11 shouldn't be to difficult if the workouts are in place and gets the diet adjusted...
Don't say crossfit..lol
RustyhookerGotta ask though. Endurance is good but definitely need a goal that works. Lol
So true!..
No matter what compounds you run, the end results WILL show how committed you are to your nutrition....plain and simple my brutha
"Getting more strict " and "eating smarter" sounds good but I believe the members below are wanting specifics on your nutritional intake....hint, it would be wise to post up cals, macro splits, timing, etc, as there are some VERY knowledgeable people here willing to give advise
I had blood work done a few months ago for insurance purposes. If anything, from the test to now my diet has only gotten more strict and I'm eating smarter in regards to what and when throughout the day. I've been reading quite a bit and am leaning towards test only for my first cycle. In addition, I'll have an ai on hand and the correct pct. Should I stack the test c with an eq?
Don't stack anything with Test your first cycle. If something goes awry, you won't know what compound is causing it. You say you've done your research, so I'm sure you've seen this already, right? You need to know how your body handles test by itself before you go throwing other things in. Especially EQ... That compound is LOOOOOOONG acting. If something goes wrong A) you won't know if it's test of EQ and you'll have to stop both, and B) if it's EQ it'll be forever before it clears out.
You 6 feet 200 pound why are you not trying to just bulk? You said put on lean mass makes zero sense at this point .. do a full blown bulk add as much weight as you can then trim down ..
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Needs to start bulking. This diet in check thing has me worried though. Usually means they are afraid to put a little fat on so what happens is they don't eat enough and they don't put any lbm on either.
Exactly and people wonder why they don't see results
Definitely going to want an AI on hand. I prefer Aromasin but to each their own. Your body will let you know so listen to it. Run a standard 12 week test only. Save the winny for another time. See how you respond to just the test. Get your AI and DIET DIET DIET in check. PCT looks fine. Make sure you wait the allotted time for the test to clear before you start it. Any blood work planned before you start to get a base line?
RustyhookerBlood work vs listen to body? Week? How long til pct?
Op please write full plan down.....
I know the answers, I'm trying to see if he does. I suggested both blood work And yes listen to your body unless your going to get blood work ever other week which most are not. Signs of certain things on cycle do not always need blood test to figure out and with research most anyone can adjust doses of say their AI based off their body signs. But I'm no pro so take that with a grain of salt
RustyhookerExcellent!
keep on him.
Just trying to help without giving up all the info in one paragraph that took me years to learn...and by no means I'm I trying to sound like I know it all...I learn something new each time I read through the threads here!
RustyhookerYou're good. We're all learning or it would get boring. Pay it forward
I can get 1mg arimidex as an ai. As far as pct i have been reading cycles of clom 100/100/50/50 and nolv 40/40/20/20. Not sure if its the best cycle for a beginner. My goal is to gain lean mass with my diet in check. Right now I'm on a fat loss diet plan regime like I said consisting of high protein low carb. If you want a detailed broken down version I can include one. Thanks for the replies.
What do you have planned for your cals/macros when you start to bulk?
What is your goal? What is your actual PCT plan? I know what your planning to use but be more specific. No plan for AI?
You will need an aromatase inhibitor or an ai. 600mgs is a decent dose of test you could always shoot 200mgs 2x a wk.
Keep researching until you have it locked in.
Your diet is the most important part of the whole thing worry about dosage once you have your training and diet figured out and dialled in dont waste time on winny.
Just test first cycle but read everything you can before you start