help with a cycle
Just trying to lay out a cycle for my brother, Im still on just test only since only 3 cycles under my belt.
He in in his mid 40's 6'1 235lbs and around 7% body fat .... hes riped for his age lol
he has 12 cycles under his belt but from what ive learned here most were done dangerously
k he has test e 250 and tren a on hand
I have been helping him run better cycles since i started cycling and joined this site mainly ai's and solid pct's
He used to just run tren a twice a week alone with nothing else ... i know i know
but i want to lay out a good cycle for him
i was thinking insted of running the test twice a week and have to pin the tren eod and having the pins run all crazy overlapping how about this
pin the test e every 4 days and the tren eod that way the pins always hit same time
and the reason he is not asking this question is that hes still stuck in the stone age refuses to own a computer and still has a flip phone lol
Im not looking for full cycle layout i know about having caber on hand and pct i am just looking for ideas for running these two different esters and ideas on ratio of the two he has a good amount of experience with tren and knows the sides
if you want to just tren trash this thread please move on
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thanks MONSTAR big help the more i think about it the reason he didnt have bad sides from tren in the past is cause he never ran test with it .... This looks good to me tho i want him to start a little lighter on the tren and work up to that after a week or two just to see how his body handles having test in it for the first time with tren
(this cycle is on me so he cant bitch about wasting it lol),,
You are right about the trt he is in need his levels checked by the dr they said that its low and offered him cream he said no way ,, thats my next battle i will have to have with him ,, he is still stuck in old school mode ,, i wish i could have caught it earlier i just started cycling myself cause i hit my mid 30's and hit a wall in training for me running test only is plenty for now
Thanks for the help i know its hard giving advise like this thru someone else ,,, i am going to get him on here soon to go into the trt section and learn what to do and do it right
i think after he sees how well the cycle goes he will be eager to get on and learn for himself
AnonWell ok thanks for the stats....why no try this but first i will tell you i have run test higher than tren and ive run it lower....i had less sides when kept tren higher.....props to Nitti for teachin a old fashion fucker that
Now why not try this run the test at a low dose like trt doses and jus pin it once a week.....i have and run the ace eod
Test e 250mg wk 1-10
Tren ace 150mg eod wk 1-8
Pct starts 2 wks after last pin...unless he is trt then he can just continue the trt dose at 250 test....
He needs to keep aro or letro and of course cabergoline on hand for prolactin sides that could pop up
Another thought is...he's run 12 cycles? And needs help to do it right.....i can bet at this point he is a candidate for trt
Give them a vote if you find it helpful.Permalinkso mabe like a trt dose of test and let the tren do its job ..... ill start looking into that
again thanks for your time
Ok his goals are solid lean mass his diet is on point ... the general question i should have asked is just some ideas about how i suggested pinning these two esters,,, would it work ?
alloneword ,, i am not as knowledgeable as many are on this site. i have been doing my reading and there is alot of bullshit to sift threw people posting outrageous cycles and getting flamed
i post this because i never found a solid looking cycle with test e and tren a and i know why because of the esters i was curious if anyone has run them in a way that i suggested and what ratio
thank you alloneword for your feedback
i have been going through the cycle logs on here and from what i have read 75mg eod is a nice start with tren ace and work up to find your sweet spot,, i guess what i was looking for is what do you think he should run of test e every 4 days?
You guys know what im getting at? ratio of test to tren?
if not ill just hit the books again ,," this is why i stick with test only cycles good old KISS method "
and thank you everyone for your time
KISS.. Exactly. Some people experience different things regarding test to tren ratio. From my understanding (this should require an asterisk), tren hogs androgen receptors, that being said extra test is left as free test with nothing to bind to but be converted to estrogen. This school of thought considers that more test with tren equals more sides. Other people use equal amounts of each. If he's running test enanthate, there's not a circumstance (that I could think of) that would require him to pin more than twice a week. The test is his base, if he's using E then pin it like he'd normally would. Regarding using tren Acetate and test E, I have no idea. I think when someone embarks on the tren train they need to be ready to experiment and find what works for them. Good luck bud.
What are his goals?
start here
You'll see every cycle layout you can think of and everyone's responses to them.
Bro whats good cycle for someone else might not be so good for this guy.. Everybody is different.
Did you go to the link? It's the cycle logs. What better way to get an idea on what he should/shouldn't do than see what other people are running and what other people are saying about those cycles. Are we going to spoon fed every person who wants a cycle suggestion, when there's pages and pages of cycle logs? I'm just saying, no disrespect bud. Obviously the guy seems to not be informed, and he doesn't seem interested in researching for himself.
I know its the cycle logs.. But its even worse if he just copys someone elses cycle and gives it to his bro..cuz everyone is different thats all il sayin.
I agree, but since we don't know this guy and all we'll have is second hand information how is anything we give him going to be any different. I feel like you could give this man(OP) a fish or we can teach him to fish. If he understood the compounds and how they are cycled generally to reach certain goals he'll be better prepared to give solid advice to his bud and he'll be more knowledgable. I have no experience with tren so I have nothing to offer here any further. Good luck bud
Well said brotha.