posted Tue, 11/20/2012 - 10:41
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Help planning next cycle
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Under the advice of Viking, he said to have you all help with the planning of my next cycle. This will be my 2nd cycle. 1st cycle was
12wk cycle Test-e
1-12 test-e 500mg EW split into two doses
Stats 5'6 180lbs 12% bf 30yrs old
Wanting to stick with the test-e, got great results. But want to throw some prop in . Please help out if you can. On PCT right now and trying to keep motivated. Am willing to up the mgs per week for the test e if needed. Thanks guys you have all been amazing with any questions I have had (even my dumba$$ questions). Thanks again bros.
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AnonYeh 2nd cycle shouldn't be too far off the first, prop or an oral. What's your reason fot keeping away from orals? If your not too oppised to it just make sure to get a good liver support. There are some good forums on the benefit of TUDCA/UDCA vs. milk thistle as far as protecting your liver and maximizing your gains. This is the cycle to go nazi with your diet and make sure all of your macros are in check and.you feed the beast.
Yeah bro mainly the hoe toxic it is to the liver. Open to them with the right advice on liver support. Any ideas would be awesome. I gained 10lbs on my first cycle. No water retention either, muscles are hard as rocks. Really like the results from the test e.
1jakd_hipyForget orals stick to test for your 2nd Prop will teach you a lot about yourself and you get the chance to learn site rotation. You still have a lot you can gain from test with those beautifully clean receptors, why complicate things?
Good man sounds like you have had a successful first cycle on test alone .. like SDM says brother are you/do you feel ready for ED pinning for the first 30 days if we choose to run prop ???.. you will have to shoot different body parts to stay comfortable and prevent risk of abcess,s forming from hitting the same spots all the time... think this through man before we nail a cycle together ok.
I'm good with pinning eod. Have pinned glutes, and thigh. Want to stay away from orals. I was nervous on my first pin but after that it just became natural .
I'm not a huge fan of orals to be honest, so if you can rotate around glutes, quads and delts, you should have enough sites to avoid any problems running prop for 4 weeks. Have you done all of these sites yet?
Haven't done delts... Before my cycle they were big, now they are huge. Did quads a few times used a 1in pin but didn't go in all the way, was too nervous. What is the ideal size for delts and quads. A buddy of mine said to stick with injectables and avoid orals if possible. Gonna hit you up with a friend request.
Approved.
Week 1-4 100mg test prop eod
Week 1-12 500mg test e split into 2x 250mg shots
Week 4+ Adex at 0.25 e3d, increase if gyno signs
Start pct 2 weeks after last test e pin, standard nolva 40/40/20/20 clomid 100/100/50/50mg ed.
If you've got aromasin, use instead of adex at 6.25mg ed and continue through pct, (read GS/Cdaddys pct post about it)
Any questions or need to chat about diet etc, drop me a pm.
Good luck mate, should be a nice run.
zewi+1 the only thing i would change only so he wouldn't have to wait 15 days to start pct is 11-14 test p @ 100mg EOD than start pct 3 days later.
Definitely something to consider, I like a prop taper as well. With it being the second cycle, thought I'd let him ease off the pinning lol!
Good to have you back in the cycles pages Zewi - We missed you ;)
That is it :). Time for me to do some shopping. Thanks bro.
1jakd_hipyFor Delts 5/8in is perfect for me, if your gear will squeeze through a 25g even better
I've checked your stats in your profile for your age - 30. Post it up with the rest of your stats.
2nd cycle either go test e with a prop kicker, or test e with an oral kicker (tbol etc). Can keep your test e at 500mg/week. I'd prefer the prop, but it depends on how comfortable you are with pinning now as you'll be doing eod with prop.