For those unaware, Viking launched a group with a few experienced members with the intention of running a trial to see how well and if we could combat gyno flare ups by using Proviron and Masteron in cycles. By means of an update, commitments mean we'll be kicking this off in a couple of months with results to follow for all and sundry to review / learn from. In the meantime I've been running a bulker using the same principles which is now, sadly, into it's last week before conclusion and everybody's favourite time, PCT. Viking and I thought we should share the information with you.

I'm not going into specific doses on the test / deca etc here, but let's use the term "significant". My run has looked like this:

Anadrol
Test E / C
Sustanon
Deca
Masteron E (400mg/wk)
Proviron (50mg ED)
Caber (0.25mg x2/wk)
Big PCT to recover from Deca.

Cycle will be 16 weeks in total when it closes off. My stats at starting point were 242lbs, just over 12% BF. I had a 2 week all inclusive holiday just prior to starting and had attempted to eat everything the hotel could produce during my stay there...... 24 hours ago, 15 weeks later, 251lbs just under 10%BF. To me at my age and after a decade of this game that's a huge yield. Way better than any cycle I've run in a long time. I've trained well, but if I'm honest I could have eaten better. Not cleaner as my diet has been typically strict and disciplined, but for the last 3 or 4 weeks a heatwave over here in the UK has had a negative effect on my appetite and if I'd pushed another 500cals down every day another couple of pounds is more than possible.

So why did it go so well? I'm a scientist by profession and I like to know why things work and why they don't. I'm pretty convinced the word "estro" is going to play a huge part in that. Notice there's no AI mentioned above? That's because I didn't use one. By using Masteron E and Proviron, I've been able to avoid any estro problems, gyno etc. No boobs, no milk, nothing. We need estro to build muscle, just not so much of it that things get ugly. Blood tests 2 weeks ago indicated my estro was sitting about two-thirds of the way up what is deemed to be the "normal range".

Let's be clear here, I took a risk, but I know my body well enough by now to spot symptoms pretty early if things start to flare up. I'm not suggesting nobody needs to use an AI anymore, far from it. What I am questioning is if it's always necessary or do we just do it by default? Not so long ago we ran cycles without AI's even available. This game involves lot's of research and following time proven protocol, but we also need to consider moving forward and pushing the boundaries of what we know will work and what we believe can.

Food for thought?