posted Fri, 11/16/2012 - 22:24
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I'm 26 5'9 178 lbs under 8%bf, diet is a lock. Probably 6 cycles under my belt. I have test e c p tren a/e deca anadrol winstrol epo igf and dbol. I need help on designing my bulking cycle. I have clomid, nolva, arimidex, aromisin, letrozole. Hcg is on its way.
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Ok, whoa! I was just tryin to get feedback. I'm not a neew kid on the juice block. Everything I have, I have run before. I'm not teenager "who wants to look good for the ladies"I have a degree in human micro-biology, a minor in bio kenetics and nutrition(not that this qualifies me) I playecd college soccer and got to 160lbs(135 before) all natural. This last cycle I got to 191 then broke my hand. I did nothing but cardio and legs for 3 months before touching a weight. I have an over productive thyroid which mean my metabolism is through the roof, I can eat in the neighborhood of 4000 calories a day without a pound gained and a sweat broken. I have stocked this gear because I've learned in the past, u don't wanna be mid cycle and drop a bottle, drop one in the toilette, a sources goes south etc. I woud rather have everything than be in need. Before I broke my hand my friend(a competetion prep couch) believed I could compete at level worth working towards. I need advice, insite, outside point of view not a lecture. If u can help, I do appreciate it. If not, save the lectures/ smugg remarks (suzy b) and ur breath for someone who needs it
This is what you get when you show up with no stats bro...
Stats or no stats, it shouldnt warrant rude remarks. As parents tell their kids, if u don't have anything nice to say, don't say anything at all.
Bro, YOU need to undertsand that we have unqualified idiots in here everyday wanting to fuck with dangerous compounds so if you want to show up without even the courtesy of a little background then you get what you get. This is the internet and I'm sure to YOU you really don't think a little grilling is necessary but WE DON'T KNOW YOU... This is why it's suggested you hang around, build some relationships, become part of the community and let us get to know you BEFORE you start posting the "what do you think..." posts
I'm trying to build relationships and report, this is why I continue to post things. However experienced you are ( not u specifically, in general) there is always someone more knowlegeable on the subject. This is why I ask questions instead of assuming I'm educated on the subject. This is the internet, and there are idiots around but it doesn't mean u should be a stuck up know it all to a person who asks for advice. (I'm not refering to u as stuck up or a know it all)
This blog doesn't need me but I also don't need this blog, just need advice plain and simple.
Ok kid, I'm going to go out on limb here and say your a 20something (I have to guess cuz you have no stats)... I offer you a simple solution (put up your stats) and you still want to argue the point...
I must've skipped school that day when they were teaching life is fair.... Take 3minutes and put up your stats
The stats have been up since this morning. Since before our discussion.
They're at the top. Edited ater maybe?
Yeah, they weren't there earlier, was editing when you jumped me LOL... I was right though, 20something and still raging against the machine (memories... Ahhh)
Now all he has to do is put them in his profile and save everyone (including him) valuable time
Rage against the machine aaahahaha
Once again, sorry I'm still sort of new to this sight. I will save them so u don't have to school me on proper website usage. Valuable time? Ha if it were valuable, u wouldn't be arguing with a 20 something.
And yet, u still haven't offered any advice.
what advice can you offeer someone who buys the candy shop and doesn't know what to do with it...
I don't know what "probably 6 cycle" means but after 6 "probable" cycles one would think you would come on with at least the framework of a cycle and ask for suggestions on tweaking it not a list of compounds and asking what to do... I am done here
(and I doubt you're 26)
Thanks for nothing.
Needs to be mandatory to put your stats in. Someone mentioned a +1 karma etc for doing so which isn't a bad idea IMO. Gets a little tiresome asking for stats!
If you've got an overactive thyroid, the VERY LAST thing you should be doing is tunning gear. From your qualifications, I guess you already know this. Are you being treated - Carbimazole etc to reduce T4? I ask as I had to have mine removed about 5 years ago as a result of a severely overactive gland. I was quite seriously ill at one point, had an irregular heart beat and had my heart stopped and restarted (very scarey!).
Honest advice from one scientist to another, unless your thyroid is is a euthyroid state, you're going to make yourself ill. If you can't add weight naturally at 4000calories, not sure a cycle is going to be sucessful anyway until T4 is sorted out.
Drop me a line if you need to.
I appreciate the advice and fortunately it isn't severe. I had a heart murmur that resided after school ended and my soccer career ended. Its treatable but the sides out weigh the possible results. Eating like a small hog seems to do the trick hahaha
Just be careful with it, I became really ill and I'd hate to see anyone go through what I did. Mine was probably self inflicted by using T3 to cut, it went sky high and never returned to normal. If you need anything on this subject, unfortunately I've got plenty of experience so drop me a line if you need to.
Back to your cycle, I think what happened here is that you threw all these compounds into the mix and it looked like a train wreck waiting to happen which is why you got the reaction you did.
Any idea on what you want to run? What have you run before? What are your goals for this cycle?
My last cycle was decca and test with a dbol kicker which worked well. I'm looking to be about to hit about 190 and after pct i'd like to be sitting at 185. My bf isn't a severe concern at the moment. I'm looking to compete in 2013 hopefully sitting at 200+
I'd leave the tren until you've done a few more cycles and suggest running another Test E and Deca cycle based on your goals, maybe a prop kicker instead of dbol if you fancy some more shopping? Classic bulker!
Got caber, AI and PCT etc?
Don't have caber but I can pick some up pretty quick. I have AI(letro, arimidex,aromasin) and SERM( clomid and nolva) for pct. I have anadrol but I'm slightly hesitant. I've ran tren(e and ace) b4 and have very few sides with it which from what I hear is abnormal. The strength is redic but I'm not a power lifter so its just a plus.
If you're going to run deca, you need caber or risk deca dick.
I don't like anadrol personally, very harsh on the liver and makes me overheat.
Yea, guess I should be more concerned with that. If it didn't happen the last time, is it a possibilty it will occur this time or does this mean I'm less prone to it?
I would never run deca without caber. The problem is once it starts it's a b-tard to put right and never a quick fix. Why take the risk?
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That definitely makes sense, I've read that letro can aid in the activity of the mamory glands as caber does. Is there truth to this?
If you get any prolactin sides you need caber or prami, even bromo is better than nothing. Letro will just lower estro so much that prolactin sides will diminish but that stuff still floats around in your system so when you come off the prolactin sides come straight back. You need both. Plus letro sides suck and you will feel like crap if you use that instead of a prolactin inhibitor
Informative, I honestly appreciate this type of advice. I'll pick up some caber b4 I start.
Be careful with caber because it's bunked a lot. If you want to be overly cautious you can buy the caber needed and pick up some bromo on the side. The reason I say this is I don't think I've ever seen bromo get bunked because no one really wants it (the sides suck) But if your caber ends up bunk it's better than lactating. pm me if you want caber sources
Different job really. Letro was designed as a cancer treatment, (breast cancer specifically), mainly we bodybuilders use it for gyno reversal whereas caber is for prolactinoma. I've never personally had to use letro, so cant give personal experience.
OMG look at that stack of goodies,6 cycles and no idea what to do with it ??????????? 178/8% is not looking like we have had any results thus far!
STATS! Why would you purchase all this gear without knowing how to run it. Dbol abombs winstrol tren deca HOLY SHIT not only are going to melt your liver, deca and tren will shut you down so bad you may never recover 100% We need stats before any help is given.
Bit early for tren, save it for later.. I could see a test deca cycle with a dbol kicker.. My favorite is 600mg test a week with 300mg of deca for 12 weeks.. You need caber big time before you touch deca. On cycle I like aromasin ed at half dose or a little less starting at week 4 sometimes 3 if needed. Pct should look like clomid 100/100/50/50 and nolva 40/40/20/20. I prefer to drop deca by the end of week ten so it's out of my system for PCT and there's no conflict with the nolva and deca.