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First tren run....how does this look

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33yo
5-9
187
15%
3 full cycles....( 2 fuck ups)

So here is my cycle layout....first time using a fast acting compound...so that's my only issue with dosing.

1-12 wks test E 400mg/wk split mon/thur
1-8 wks tren a thinking 300mg/wk 75mg EOD
1-13 hcg 500mg/wk split Tues/fri
1-13 Liquid Dex .25 eod/ed
1-12 caber .25 twice a week probably mon/thurs

Pct

14-18wks
nolva 40/20/20/20
clomid 75/50/50/50

Have tons of supporting vitamins also I take daily, certain things will up the dose for cycle....for example NAC.

Any suggestion would be great. Nervous about the tren.

crazymofo's picture

I agree with gearhead below. You will get great gains with good diet and a simple 12 week Test E cycle, I just finished up one and don't even plan on adding anything else to the next one because it was so successful.

This is a basic cycle most here agree on. HCG is not a must but you can do it if you want to prevent atrophy

1-12 Test E 400-500mg/wk split mon/thurs
3-14 liquid dex .25 e3d (adjust as needed)
4-14 HCG 500ui/wk split (would be optional for you)

PCT
14-18
Nolva 40/40/20/20
Clomid 100/100/50/50

crayon's picture

+1 good info

sfla80's picture

last 3 cycles were test e.....one with dbol, one with winny, one solo

crazymofo's picture

ok, so you have those 3 cycles under your belt in addition to the 2 other previously mentioned cycles? Now I am more interested in diet and training. You should have gained a lot of mass with those 3 cycles. You should edit the original post and add those cycles in to make the information more readily available. You said in your post there you never took a fast acting compound and orals are pretty fast acting. What does your diet look like? How about training regiment? And please tell me you have gotten bloods multiple times? And as already asked what is your goal? Would assume to bulk?

sfla80's picture

Goals would be to get to 205 lean. Trainging is HIT. I know how to train. Diet I know how to diet but honestly been off lately. Just got engaged and she likes to go out to eat lol......

Help me post a pic up....I agree with u uys im a little small but def got a good base.

crazymofo's picture

18lbs is a reasonable goal. But what everyone is trying to tell you is that Tren is the wrong compound to take. There is absolutely no reason why a Test E or especially that Test E/Dbol cycle you said you did could not get you there as long as you ate shit tons of cals. 15% BF is also on the high side, I definitely not going to bash you for cheating on a diet cause you got engaged. Congrats btw bro. Why not enjoy that for a bit, then get your diet in check. After you can commit to a cycle just do something simple. Test E by itself works well. My next cycle personally is just a simple 12wk test e with a test prop kicker. As far as tren don't touch that stuff with a 10 foot pole. Just spend some time looking around the forums and see how many asses tren has kicked.

You can go to the top row Community>pictures>self shots and then select post a pic to add a pic to the website.

sfla80's picture

crazy, cant up load the photo cause it asks me for a source. The pic I wanna post isn't from a source from here, and was few months after a cycle anyways

sfla80's picture

Thank you sir....ill will put it off for now. Have some winny coming with thhe order so might just finish the test e with that. Ill post the pic tomorrow. Long night of work ahead for me.

crazymofo's picture

alright sounds good bro. and when you do plan on running it I would suggest posting it up in the cycle logs so you can get help in dialing it in.

Catalyst's picture

Good advice, +2

sfla80's picture

Fuck up cycles. ...one trusting a friend...got bunk gear. Other was my first ever "cycle" was given pharm grade test/deca but only one 10ml vial each. Never knew about all these forums. Trusted my friend. So took it..did proper pct though

sfla80's picture

Ill post a pic when I get to the computer.i hear you guys. I do have prolactin control...stated witch is caber.

Cant find an option to post a pic.

Im open to suggestions guys. And understand your thoughts on my size. That's why I posted here.

SwaySway's picture

The big kicker is the quick jump to Tren after only one real cycle... So you are going to get a lot of push back from the community on jumping on Tren as a novice aas user... With all of the additional options out there you'd be better served with a more traditional cycle..

You gotta post your goals as well... We have NO idea what you are trying to achieve

sfla80's picture

No you are mis understanding. I have done 3 full legit cycles. before these full legit cycle there was 2 fuck up cycle....totaling 5....I listed my cycles ive done...and I listed the fuck upcycles

Dickkhead's picture

I'm looking at the stats and guessing you're trying to do a Tren recomp? It would be glorious if you would state what your goal is. You're working with a lean body mass of 158 lbs. No bro. 12 weeks Test E 500 mg / wk. I might add something here if I knew what these "fuck ups" were. You're skinny bro. You need to gain muscle mass. Absolutely no Tren. I can send you a picture of my real big fist with hairy ass knuckles and you can show them to the morons at the gym that are telling you to do Tren. Tell them you hired a consultant and this is his message for them.

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GearHead

the_gainz's picture

Good advice. Take it. At least you researched ancillaries for any prolactin sides, but with those stats you should be able to make gains off of just test if your diet is right. Too soon for tren