posted Tue, 04/05/2016 - 19:39
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First tren cycle crit
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Breakdown of cycle in link above. 12 weeks test-e and 6 weeks tren-a. Stats: 26yrs old, 195lbs, 6'1" BF ~14%. I've been working out for 9 years with the last 2 being consistent. Goals: I would like to get down to 8-9% BF. There is a lot of broscience around pinning tren-a ed vs eod. I understand that ed would probably have more stable blood levels, but I'd like to start at a relatively low dose to see how my body reacts and then maybe increase to 30-50mg ed. Would like someone's first hand account. I have some dostinex on hand incase I start to see sides. Any other adjustments or modifications you would make? Thanks in advance for all your help.
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I assume that much like me, you're going to run tren no matter what, so here is what you should know.
First off, I just want to say that I fucking love tren and it gets so much shit on this site, yes it's harsh, the harshest, but that doesn't mean it can't be used safely. Just avoid the want to up your dose when you don't explode like you think you will, I did this and got some nasty sides my first cycle....yes, I ran tren A on my first ever cycle, broke the cardinal rule, and now know that you should deff just run test first, but here we are soooo......
I'm currently running 75 mg of Tren A every other day, this is about the minimal effective dose for me, but I'm 6'6" and 250lbs (I know the stats on my page say 239 lbs, I've put on a few since my starting my cycle) so that same dose may not be the magic for you. My first ever cycle of Tren, I started with 50 mg eod and felt fine.
What you have to remember is Tren = 10x Test.....so I like to keep my dose low. You will get sides no matter what most likely, they will include, but are not limited to, insomnia, night sweats, acne. I find that keeping my dose at, or less than 75 mg EOD, I don't get any acne...if I bump it up, I break out like a 15 year old kid. Night sweats and insomnia are unavoidable for me, but I know guys that run Tren and never have sides. Everyone is different, just keep your dose low and EOD pinning is fine, half life of Acetate ester is 3 days (some say 2 days) either way, eod is fine. PM me if you want to talk more because I'm sure I'm about to be torn a new one based on what I just said.
Good luck...
Can't tell if srs. Any adjustments you'd make?
I would stay away from tren unless I'm preping for a show. Really harsh compound my friend, not only on body bit also on mind. I'm sure you could drop bf without tren, but it's your health
195lbs at 14%bf at 6'1" ...imo, you dont have enough "un-natural" tissue built up yet to warrent the use of tren... also, 2 years of consistency means two years of experience in my book. i wouldnt condone even a 1st ever cycle of test only with only 2 years of consistent diet and training... imo, it take about 3-4 years of consistency, meaning no breaks or slip ups lasting more than a ~week or so to build up enough "base" to then continue building with AAS. just my .02
to get down to 8-9% bf, test is all one needs to stay anabolic while dieting. reaching that goal will be all willpower and diet. being in a calorie deficit is what gets you there. not tren, trust me on that. tren is for cosmetics. and, ime and opinion, test alone will be easier because tren makes me crave food and makes it harder to stay in a calorie deficit more than if i was on test alone. ephedrine is the only thing that keeps appetite at bay while dieting on tren for me. but thats just me. also, doesnt take alot of test to stay anabolic while dieting. 250-400mg/week of test e is all id ever need to reach the goal you are after. tren ect. ...thats all for cosmetics and not needed for the simple goal you are obtaining.
whats your diet look like? what your plan of attack in the kitchen to reach that 8-9%bf?
Thanks for your help Kap. I will definitely consider dropping the tren. The diet is clean. I was going to reduce calories by 200-300 below maintenance for last 6-8 weeks of cycle. Would you adjust pin frequency for test? Would you adjust AI?
I'd drop them a bit more. ~500cals below. But any deficit will get you there, just will take longer.
As far as AAS, if you're going to use them then I'd just use test. 2x/week pinning is sufficient. I've gone even 1x/week and as much as Ed. More frequent pins the better is my rule but enanthate is fine getting shot 2x/week. Hcg might not even be warranted with test only. Could maybe even save that for later. And as far as dose I wouldn't go above 500mg, like I said you could even srt anabolic on less. More AAS, IMO is better suited to help build up more tissue when building. If all you're doing is dieting. 250-400mg of test is really all I've personally ever needed and you look a lot better because of less water.