First Tren A cycle
For about 12 yrs I've ran nothing but Test E/C with eq or deca off and on. Currently on my 12th week of test E 500 week and eq 400 week. I'm at my heaviest at 240lbs, 6'1 and fitbit scale says 17%fat. I fluctuate between 205 to 220lbs. I'm 36 yrs old and have no need to be extra bulky or super cut. Just looking to see what results I'll get on a tad less calorie intake im on now and also see how my body will react to first time use. I'm looking to finish out my last 7 weeks with tren ace and test prop. I've found a basic beginner tren cycle but wondering if I'm wasting it. The cycle I found was:
Weeks 13 to 20
Test prop 75mg eod or eo2d
Tren A 50mg eod or eo2d
Followed with a pct combo
The test can be bumped up to 100mg and tren to 75mg. I've read tren 50 and test prop was good for beginners and then others say 100mg and 75mg tren was better. I know I'll get dinged for not having a bulk or cut plan but I still hope to see a good body transformation. I work in a major gym so I train(demo routines and spot people) all day, lift at night and I'm also a crossfit guy. Please no bashing. So I can't wait to see what tren will do for me. Please let me know if this 1st cycle is decent or not. Please feel free to pitch a better beg. cycler. Thanks in advance
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Finish your cycle, do your pct. I would advise to add some masteron and switch the numbers for your test and tren. There is really no true way to cut and bulk at the same time, but you can run a lean cycle which fires up your metabolism and then by using tren, a product that increases protein synthesis, you will continue to gain muscle mass while altering your body comp. which is the name of the game. All this holds true only if your diet is on point, daily, weekly, monthly.. your sleep is of good quality and your training is harder then you've ever trained before. If those three things are not there then stay home and read some more and find the motivation to do it.
C'mon bro. Bulk and cut in the same cycle is a joke. Can some people pull that off. I'm sure there are some people that can kinda sorta. Finish your Test EQ cycle and call it a day. Save the Tren.
Oh and I don't mind being winded at crossfit. Hope it's not to bad but If it gets bad I don't mind dropping it for a bit. No competition type training. I just do it for the high reps, time and challenge. Been lifting for half my life and sometimes it gets boring so I bounce between different types of training. Please keeping with your input and help. Thanks guys
RustyhookerTren isn't for crossfit. You also stated below you dont want to get big? Then why run juice?
Never seen a big crossfitter either.
I love the feed back and support. So thanks. Let me answer questions first. About anti prolactin support, I'm iffy on that. Please don't ding me for bringing up 15yr old times but back in yr 2000 when I first started hanging with guys who ran cycles, anti prolactin chems were hardly heard of or at least I wasn't aware due to lack of Internet being around. In fact I didn't hear about it til around 2010 and really didn't care because I figured I'd never try tren due to harsh sides. But times have changed and it seems like usage is more common. Sorry for long story but I was getting at I know plenty of guys who haven't used it and didn't get any gyno or lost of libido. But today it seems it's a must to have on hand with a tren cycle. Not sure what has changed. I will order some and have it handy just in case though.
My AI/serm on hand is in my pct combo pill with aromasin and a botrue of letro from last cycle.
I plan to take it real so and stick with 50 eod. Half life is 3 days and one site write said beginner cycle should be eo2d. I'll listen you guys advice since we are live and it's not a 3yr Google find. Why do some run test higher than tren and some at the same level or lower? 75mg of prop eod seems really low for a cycle.
If you take tren you can kiss crossfit goodbye!!! Unless you are on something like GW501516. Tren will crush your cholesterol and destroy your cardio. You will not be able to do more than a few heavy sets without being winded let along do any kind of a WOD or complex.
That in mind you could work your way to it but the key is to keep a log of everything. Body temp at bed time, diet throughout the day and especially before bed. Lower prop and pick something you can do realistically. For instance if you want to start at low than 50 EOD would be a good start. For me I wouldn't run a short Tren cycle unless they were daily shots. Look for a cut blend of maybe 50/50/50 and run it for 6 weeks. That will test your limits. Keep regular blood pressure logs and monitor your sleep. Certain foods, specifically high glycemic carbs will cause the fever chills and night sweats. You basically are having a hypoglycemic episode while your burns fat. There is a lot that goes into this so study hard.
Trust me on Crossfit.....it ain't happening on tren. It can be done but you will be crushed and your numbers will drop drastically. You will get ripped but at a cost of strength too.
Really hope i don't have to stop crossfit. I'm in a yr contract. I'll do what I can though. At the moment I can't lower the test over the tren. It's a rip blend but I do have individual bottles of tren and test prop. And are you saying run the tren and prop at 50mg eod or just the tren? I'm running a 7 week tren cycle. Is that short to you?
RustyhookerLow test. Switch the numbers. Like below I ran 25prop with 50 tren a .
Prolactin?
I will share my tren ace expirience hope it helps ,take it real slow to gauge tolerance ,started at 25 mg tren ace everyday with 100 mg of test prop every other day ,,over weeks I upped dose on tren ace little by little working my way up to About 70 mg a day ,had to lower my test prop dose to 200mg week ,with my test higher or equal to tren ace ,I was so fucking pissed off I couldn't stand myself and I felt kinda off thoughts going kinda wild nothing extreme , ,once I lowered the test I feel great ,no crazy side effects no night sweats ,no insomnia ,just take small steps if you don't feel right research and adjust your dose ,some guys can run hight test with tren ,I am definitely not one of those ,good luck bro and I see you don't talk about a AI for estrogen ,hope you have one on hand as well as cabergioline in case prolactin issues occur ,
Lol, rip w/ the cardio while on tren and doing crossfit
Cycle seems fine. I would run tren higher than test though, just a preference.
pinkman.Any anti prolactin support? Caber, bromo, prami?