first time pin Pain help
I started my first cycle today of test e 300. I decided to try the quad instead of ass thinking it would be easier for my first pin I am using 23g 1 1/2" pins. Everything was sterile I warmed up the test before injecting made sure I was in the muscle and everything went smooth after injecting I applied pressure and massaged the area about an hour later the injection site started getting sore which I think is normal but now 12 hours later my entire quad front and both sides is sore like some one hit me there with a baseball bat there is no swelling or redness. Its not bad when I'm sitting down but walking and lifting my leg is tough. Is this normal or any idea what could have happened maybe to close to a nerve or something? Also how long should I expect this to last?
I only injected 1ml and did it as slow as possible to give it time to spread out took approximately 60-90 seconds, my source is legit so I'm sure its not a product issue and I did this a couple hours before going to bed if that makes a difference.
Thanks in advance for replies.
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Thanks for all the replies you were all right. The pain and soreness went always after 3 days since then I have pinned 3 times in the glutes with hardly any soreness I tried the quad again but my muscle started spasming as soon as I got in so I decided to stick with glutes until I can get a smaller pin I'm thinking 25g
I finally found a nerve while pinning quads. felt just like hitting your funny bone! had to abort that one, get a fresh needle and mover over a little bit.
I hit a nerve first injection last week in my quad! My whole leg jerked and then I just finished pushing the needle in and injected lol. I kind of enjoyed the way it felt haha.
It is an extremely weird and not to nice sensation. I reallllllllly didn't like it
More than likely it's because it's because it's a virgin muscle. I started with my quads too because I felt like I could control it better and it was easier access. Truth is though when I started pinning glutes it was way less painful (even the first pin) and not to bad to do one handed. Since this is your first cycle you and you're only pinning twice a week. You could just use quads and glutes as your rotation and you will be fine. Definitely give the glutes a go though. Not as bad as you might think! Good luck bro......
I've had this same thing happen to me. I pinned quads a few times in that cycle and it only happened that bad once. I chalk it up to I moved the needle around too much while I was injecting or something. It was so bad that I filled up the tub with hot water and just sat in it haha. I was sure I had fucked something up and gotten an infection, but it went away in a few days. I feel your pain. I saw alot of people mentioning glute pain. Maybe I just lucked out, but I was never as sore in the glutes as I was the quads.
best rotation in my opinion- start at top work your way down, left delt- right delt, left glute, right glute- left quad-right quad, so if your doing a standard 12 week cycle with long esters you only pin each of these muscles twice, and there is a six week gap in between, always swab before and after, slightly heat the gear, and pin slowly, if you use a band aid, don't apply it to tight. have a nice hot shower before and after as well. be careful massaging area, it can encourage tearing, especially if you were very close to a vein or vessel, you may have slightly nicked it or even just touched it, if you rub you may irritate, I still find 23g 1 inch best, 25g you have to push to hard on plunger. good luck
I need to practice my one handed pinning before going after delts. looks real challenging to do solo
delts are the easiest bro, I find glutes to be awkward my self.
Delts always seem to go the smoothest for me. I bury a 22g 1" then go train them and theres minimal PIP. I use the same technique for glutes but theres always more PIP there. gave up on quads for this cycle at least.
Thanks for all of the replies and help. Everyone was right after 2 days most of the soreness went away and on day 3 I was back to normal. I take my next pin today and can't wait I'm going to try the quad again but higher up and more on the outside. I learned applying heat to the injection site helped out a lot.
Thanks again everyone
You'll want to hit the other leg this time, then rotate in glutes for pins too.
First time it hurts like crazy, I remember my quad and lower quad muscle leading up to the knee was brutal pain.
however, I have to admit, 1 1/2 in needle :-o thts too long. I use 3/4in and 25g and its perfect. Tht too would matter, smaller needle length and diameter definitely would help.
be ready for a sore sore ass when you pin it for first time. This pain should go away after a couple of pins. I strongly recommend moving to 25g 3/4in. Thts way too big of a needle. Ive been pinning with this setup for 2 years.
Rustyhookerhttp://www.eroids.com/forum/general/general-talk/so....you-got-pip
http://www.eroids.com/forum/general/general-talk/quad-injecting
CBurr covered it well only difference for me is I pin where my middle finger rest when standing with arms relaxed at my sides. Another no no is massaging the pin site after. For the other side run a hot bath and after you pin go sit in it for a good while. It will get better, trust us.
Before you know it you will have pin sites all over..
RustyhookerYessss! ^^^ this!
I never pin the front of my quads anymore. My first few pins were on the front of my quads and I could barely walk for about 2 days. It felt like I was kicked by a horse. I though for sure I had an infection. I've since moved to the upper, outer part of my quad and it's been butter ever since.
@ CBBurrr... That's just what I was gonna say is work out the muscle u pin to disperse the oil more. Also try using a heating pad on the area of the body you're gonna pin for about 10min prior to injection. Quick in, slow plunger, wait about 40 seconds, and pull out quick. I prefer glutes and delts to legs. Every new site u hit will prob have PIP the first go around. Couple weeks in and should be ok. BTW what kind of oil is used in your test?
Ya bro its normal. The first time I pinned my quad the whole upper leg and knee area swelled up and walking was horrible for about 7-10 days. Your injection technique will get better too and you will find your sweet spots. Its taken me about 6 weeks but im getting to the point now where I barely feel the pip anymore. If you saw how much pip I was having the first few weeks everywhere -- glutes, delts, quads you might question why anyone would even do aas lol, my friends all thought I was crazy. But ya it will get better, dont worry too much if a couple workouts suffer in the beginning, take the time to let your body get used to the external chemical and you will see plenty of gains. Good luck bro!
Check this site out. Make sure you're injecting in the right places. Also, good info on pin sizing. I use a 1" 24g in my quads and some discomfort the first time but not what i would call pain. You'll have to do the other quad next and work glutes in in the future and maybe delts. So read what you can to minimize the number of times you go through this. It gets easier. http://www.spotinjections.com
Sorry for source I fixed it. Thanks for the info I pinned on the outside upper part of quad. Glad to know its normal I just started freaking out when I woke up and it felt like chuck Norris round house kicked my quad.since this Is my first cycle do you guys recommend pinning in the same place every time or switching to other areas
The more sites you can fit into the rotation the better it will be for you in the long run. Pinning in the same spot will build up scar tissue and could make it more likely to get something like a sterile abscess, because you could be pinning again before the last pin is fully absorbed by the body. Just know that every new site you try is gonna hurt the first few times like you are experiencing now.
I've found the outside of the quad, mid way works pretty good for me. If you are standing with your hands at your side got for the area at your fingertips. You may have just hit a weird spot, close to a nerve or something. I'm also on my first cycle and pinned quad today, I don't feel anything at all. I bet your next one goes smoother.... don't fear the quad pin.
valhallas besttrust homie its gonna be like that for a couple days but u gotta fuckin power through it and man the fuck up, i did, but it will get better later in the cycle...
Just so you know, we don't mention source names in the open forum. No worries bro. Pain is common in a new or "virgin" muscle group as stated below. Should subside in 2-3 days. Welcome to the world of AAS my friend. Also, check out the "instruction book" on pinning, specifically the safe areas on the quads.
http://www.spotinjections.com/index3.htm
You need to edit the post so that your source name is not listed.
I understand that pip is pretty common in virgin muscle, and after a few pins you should not notice as much pip. What part of the thigh did you pin? I have 1" pins for the thigh and use the 1.5" on the glute.
I have also noticed that if I do some leg exercises right after pinning it seems to disperse the oil better... less pip.