posted Fri, 06/14/2013 - 06:56
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First Stack Cycle
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Trying to iron out the best way to cycle what I have. I've had good results with past cycles, but I've never stacked before. I've heard great things can happen when on Tren and also heard the sides can be rough. Any advice would be much appreciated. If I need to get anything else please let me know.
3x10ml 200/mg Test Cyp
3x10ml 76mg Tren Ace
90x10mg Nolvadex pills
What do you guys think?
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Ok, so it looks like I'm going to get rid of the tren and do a dbol/test/eq cycle. From the advice you all have provided, looks like I need to get my hands on some dbol, arimidex, and clomid? Can you guys offer actual dosage including PCT and perhaps best source to go through?
You'll need some prolactin control for sure with Tren.
You also need to find some Clomid to do a proper PCT and get your hands on an AI.
Just an fyi. If you're already having problems keeping yourself motivated...then have fun convincing yourself to get out of bed while on Tren.
The fact that you're asking if you need Clomid just because you have Nolva tells me you haven't done your homework and aren't ready to do a stack. Not trying to be mean here. Just trying to convince you to get some more knowledge and cycles under your belt first.
With what you have. You can do a light test c cycle and a half assed pct with just your nolva.
That's it.
Save some cash, get some clomid and arimidex, maybe some winny and do a winny/test cycle while running an AI and a solid pct.
Thanks for the post. That's exactly why I joined, to get more knowledge. Buddy of mine had the Tren so I bought it, but i wasn't going to just start pinning it before I educated myself first. I did take winny once and it really made my joints hurt; although the results were good. I'm thinking about getting some dbol to kickstart the test regardless with what i do. What do you think?
dbol is a good way to kickstart a test cycle. Just realize that's a bulk cycle.
Strength gains will be nice, but make sure you get that arimidex and clomid.
Keep reading and good luck.
AnonSwop the tren for some clomid or anavar.
age, stats cycle history?
On profile 30yrs old, 6ft, 185lbs, no bf%
Definitely want to see cycle history here please.
1st cycle- 8wks sustanon 250
2nd cycle- 10wk test e 500mg/wk
3rd cycle- wk1-8 test c 500mg/wk
wk8-14 stanozolol 80mg eod
4th cycle- test cyp 10wks 600mg/wk
I pinned the test Monday and Thursday on every cycle. I really cant even remember what I did the first cycle.
My bf% little high right now...not sure but I would guess about 16-18%. I dont plan on starting the cycle until January, so that should be down because my diet is on point now.
Personally wouldn't touch tren for a few more cycles (8-10) as if it goes wrong the experience you'll have by then will help you to iron things out quickly.
What's the goal here, where do you want to be at when you finish this cycle?
Mainly I'm trying to get back to where I was fairly quick without bloat. I'm trying to get my strength and motivation up, something I've struggled with this past year. I already have the product mentioned previously and I don't have sources where it's easy just to get anything on the drop of a hat, so most likely I'll be using what I have. Thankfully if things don't go so well with the Tren I can discontinue use and soon after so will the sides.
You can't run a cycle with that without another shopping trip anyway. You have no clomid for pct, no AI, no prolactin control (caber, prami etc), so whatever you decide to do it would be unwise to start without. Have a read about those things.
When you say no source, I'm confused! Can't find one here?
So I need clomid even though I have Nolvadex. I have a local source, never tried anything online before. I was trying to stick with him if I could help it, but I am definitely going to listen to the advice I get from the forum. The guy I get it from basically told me this:
wk1-15 400mg test, pin on Monday and Thursday
wk4-12 76mg tren, pin Monday, Wednesday, Friday
Run nolva 3wks after last pin of test
He has been doing it a long time and seems really experienced, but I don't know if he's just blowing me off or just doesn't look much into it, because I've done a lot of reading and have a bunch of conflicting answers. I just want to make sure I have all my ducks in a row before I start, knowing that Tren is really powerful. I've never had any sides in the past, but you've seen my cycle history; somewhat mild cylces in the past.
Put it this way, I wouldn't run it! Based on your background and experience, I'd seriously encourage you to put the whole plan in the bin, get involved with a decent source on eroids and lets build something more suitable for you. Putting a cycle together because "this is what I have" isn't the way to do it.
The fact he makes no mention of AI or prolactin control shows he's either a major risk taker or lacks basic knowledge about steroids. Standard PCT is nolva and clomid. AIs are drugs such as aromasin and arimidex.
No prolactin control? Fancy lactating?
So what would you suggest? Preferably something to build off the test cyp I already have.
If your worried about bloat, maybe an EQ run which would give you a lean gain. Out and out bulker, we could look at a deca run. I'd personally favour the EQ idea as your BF is a bit higher, nice steady lean gains. If you like the idea, have a read up on the compound, see what you think etc and we can lay something out for you,
So I was looking at the eq and I'm really thinking I want some faster results. My main goal here is to get back where I was fairly quickly. I've really had a hard time with the motivation factor and I am thinking the jump start will help.