-1 First real cycle... Need a little help from the vets
So I was a newbie stil am with gear. I did a cycle of dianabol at 40 mg/day. I know newbie mistake. But I want to get serious. I am thinking of doing a stack with Testosterone Enanthate and stanzolol with Tamoxifen Citrate. I have done some research and came up with this:
Testosterone Enanthate
Week 1-10
250 mg/week * 2
Week 11-16
50 mg/week*2
Week 17
80mg/week
Week 18
60mg/week
Week 19
50mg/week
Week 20
40mg/week
Week 21
30mg/week
Week 22
20mg/week
Stanzolol
Week 6-10
20mg/day
Tamoxifen Citrate
Week 17-18
40 mg/day
Week 19-20
20 mg/day
And my stats are I'm 18*, 160 lbs, 5'10", my diet consists of alot of carbs and protien. I am also playing rugby for my school and soon county.
I just need some feed back of this cycle is good for me or is it absolute shit.
Any help would be great, thanks.
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sgtstedankoSigh... How did I miss this one : ( in short. Wait to cycle, dude. Continue researching, & training hard. Continue carb/protein/fat ratio, to find your magic #. This is a bad idea...
bro i'm 23 and i'm still REALLY young to mess around with hormones....but 18 is definetly ridicoulousssss!!!! your hormones are not even fully develloped! bad idea to think about steroids already
At your age, i would take optimum nutrition serious mass and beast nutrition creatine, and eat like your life depends on it, i'm talking 6-8 meals per day.
Yea I'm on a see food diet, I constantly eat. I am taking Optmimum nutrition pro complex gainer three times a day, Nitrix pills three times a day, vegegreens once a day mixed with orange juice and fish oil, I use 1.M.R. Before I train, drink BCAA's while I train, and multi vitimen once a day.
Anyone know if I could take more, less, or sonething completely different?
Optimum nutrition pro complex gainer, even better choice, that's actually the one i use. It is pricey though.
irishpride79quick question jdicks?.. you need 20/20 vision to run that diet?...ohhhh you meant "seafood" silly me...i apologize =)
18yrs old i have scar tissue twice as old as you!!!!
Fucking speechless.
Good decision young man learn how to train and eat properly you are still very young you have all your life in front of you yet,make yourself happy by gaining naturally for many years,learn how to manipulate foodstuffs to get the greatest potential from each,study and try out different training routines,the list is endless of ways to get the best from your body whilst still young,i hope you make the right desicion and keep yourself safe and happy.
TheCardinal & tread-m Ya'know no one has really put it that way. Hate to say it but you bastards changed my mind, doesn't happen that often though. I will talk to my doc about the endocrinIologist. And I do train alot already, I do cardio for an hour every morning and train for and hour and a half every afternoon. Thanks guys, I'll get some starting photos of me and see what I can turn myself into without roids.
tread-mThats good stuff bro, it will serve you well I promise. Run over to Jaycutler.com and click blueprints on the homepage and look through the years diet to get some good gainer food ideas and just work that diet like crazy for now. That and a little more doc/endo work and you may blow your own mind. Proper builders diet will triple your yield as to the gym work. Good for you bud! Hang around, watch and learn as you wait.
irishpride79Hey hommie listen to phrozen brain cells let me know how you make out ; )
Yes I know I am. But I do have a problem with my thyroids. I am unable to gain muscle like other people. My doctor said that steroids is my only way of gaining muscle pretty much. But he did not recomend them, just agreed that it is pretty much the only way. I just want to know of a good cycle.
NastyNateThen tell your doctor to fix your fucking thyroid....I don't have a thyroid and I can still gain muscle without the juice at 31 years old because I have a endocriniologist that closely monitors my thyroid meds, TSH levels, etc... so go get a second opinion cause your doctor is full of shit, and should be referring you to a endo already.
This is true. But I am a pretty stubborn guy. And I already have my gear on hand. All I want to know is if the cycle I stated would be a good first cycle for someone looking to gain some muscle with the gear I have.
tread-mWe take care of people around here brother, there are several members hee who have wisely decided against gearf for now around your age but hang with us and learn for the day they peak and are ready. This cycle is not for "someone" its for you and that is the part that makes it a bad idea. If it were for anyone else we would look at that person as an individual just like we do you. As card says, you need an endo. And then you spend the next 5 years working a builders diet. Once the frame matures and you have put in the time you will be ready. Hang around and learn brother but don't run this cycle...18 is a no go and even if you were very low T through some freak situation it would be test only trt levels until older. Thats not the case, you need an endo brother, get on that and lets see where it goes.
irishpride79Hey t-dizzle is he 18 or 28?
irishpride79Irish makes an observation..lil fella bamboozled me switched it to 28 and back to 18..... Slippery fellow!
NastyNateThrow it away, give it away, sell it away....any of those three will work best for you. Not trying to be a smartass bro, but if you've done the research that's necessary before you ever do steriods, you wouldn't be in this position right now.
Yea I know, I completely understand. I'm sure you have been in my situation, hight school and wanting to be the biggest and strongest kid. I appreciate your opinion, thanks. I'll forsure have some thinking to do if I want to risk fucking up my body.
Just pick up a fork instead of a pin. Your to young and gots all kinds of test in ya. Wait aBout 10 years I'd say
NastyNateTerrible cycle, here's a better one:
Weeks 1 thru infinity: eat eggs, oatmeal, chicken, fish, sweet potatoes, protein shakes, and great training with lots of rest.
Your too young to be doing the juice bro, your gonna fuck ur body up...you thinking bout having kids, you want to feel depressed and down the rest of your life? Take advantage of your bodies natural test production and get some amazing natty gains.
DIET IS THE KEY
tread-mThis is a no brother...going nowhere hear with vets. Too young by a long shot for vets to "help " you. Assisting you in this is a dis-service to you.