First Cycle.. Complete Newbie beware
Hi all,
I am here because even though I have spent hours upon hours researching, everyone seems to have a different idea as to what your first cycle should be like. I will attempt to take in what you have to offer (as I already have after browsing your forum for a while).
Background info:
I will be turning 21 in march
I have been lifting on / off for about 3 years
I have been consistent for about the last 6 months
I weighed 171 as of today
I have a friend who just started a dbol cycle a couple days ago, seems pretty tempting
I have another friend who has done many cycles and has gained 75+ lbs of pure muscle in the last two years
What would I need to run my first cycle and post cycle? And how much money am I looking at?
Is it worth it to just run one cycle? How much muscle typically or from personal experience do you gain from your first cycle?
Also, I absolutely refuse to use needles.. as much as it is suggested and urged I can't bring myself to it. What's the next best thing?
I have been spending the last month working on my diet and I'm doing great in regards to that. I am trying to get my body fat down to 10% or so and I'm at about 14% right now. I plan on doing this before my first cycle if i decide to do so.
I know this is a lot, but I have read so much that it honestly has confused me a little bit. If I decide to start dbol I just want to make sure I do it right and do it 100%.
I will check back tomorrow. Thank you to anyone who reads and/or replies.
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do some more research and then if you have any more questions after that, come back and ask them.
too young, too little natural training. don't try and take the easy way out
ready2pump
2 days ago
"I will heed all of your advice. I have gotten far doing what I have done and I suppose i will wait a few more years before I truly consider it. I appreciate all of your wisdom and believe me it will not go un-noticed. I work more on my diet every day and I suppose I could focus more on that. Thank you all for your help."
He has seen the light. No reason to beat him over head with it.
Too young.
"Been training consistently for last 6 months" - Then train consistently for a few years and then revisit.
if at this age you can't grow you know nothing about bodybuilding or better said not everything.
I will heed all of your advice. I have gotten far doing what I have done and I suppose i will wait a few more years before I truly consider it. I appreciate all of your wisdom and believe me it will not go un-noticed. I work more on my diet every day and I suppose I could focus more on that. Thank you all for your help.
Awesome. Take the time to post up your diet and work out plan and let the forum help you with them.
1 you are to young #2 if you have to ask how much $ you aren't even close to ready just to feed yourself your moms going to have to up your lunch money! just kidding but really to diet right is pricey. #3 your friends are going to ruin there body's, years of research will help you get your moneys worth. at your age you could really do damage man. Do research you are still at a good age where your test levels are high do you really wanna mess that up then whether you like needles or not you may be on trt for the rest of your life if something goes wrong. My honest opinion wait at least til you are 25. put it hard work, diet right and listen to your body. you don't wanna just run an oral you always wanna use testosterone as a base even if low dose. trust me when I was 21 i wanted to run a cycle so bad and i am glad I didn't all these vets and mods will tell you just wait. Just listen they have been lifting and doing aas while you were still a stain on your dads floor, before you could get on the net and ask they figured all this out the hard way they know. just my advice.
Keep in mind, the PCT should start 2 weeks after last shot of long ester (i.e. test e). PCT needs to be on point, its just as important as the cycle itself (as well as the diet and training). Did you also research Milk Thistle for the orals?
You have to remember, steroids is nothing to just "mess" around with. It IS a drug. Any drug without the proper planning,research, and not following the directions will screw with your body and mind. For example, you take 1 to 2 aspirins and it helps with a headache. But you take 1 to 2 fistful of aspirin and you might not wake up.
Be open minded and listen to these guys. There's a good reason why they recommend things...it's called experience. They know what they are talking about. It's your body and choice, but ultimately your life and future. Good luck and hope you make the best educated and informed decision.
Dbol has been around for a very long time. I think the most famous person to use it would be Arnold Schwarzenegger. When he was starting body building steroids where legal. They could get dbol anywhere. So did he get big? Yes he did. Did he take it when he was at a age that this forum would say he was to young? Yes he did. Did he pay as he got older for this mistake? I think he did. He is lucky to be alive. He was a ignorant kid that just did not know any better. Now a days everything is laid out for you. Anything a beginner needs to know is right here in this forum. All you have to do is read and do so with a open mind. Most young me do not have a true value of life. This is one of the reasons everyone will tell you not to start doing AAS at this age. Well also know that more than likely you will not listen and go take a hand full of pills and swell up a little and think 2 hand fulls would work even better. Remember Arnold is worth millions and I am sure having that kind of money helped him get bumped up on the donors list. What do you think your chances will be getting a new liver after yours fails?
AnonYou should just get your diet straight.... train hard for the next 5 yrs then think about a cycle
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I'm not sure how I feel about advocating the use of AAS at 21 unless you have the potential to compete in professional athletics or at a high level of sports, especially if you have not consistently been working out hard for 2 to 3 years and have gotten the dieting down. Having said that, I'm one those folks who believes people will do what they will so at least get informed. A basic beginners cycle has already been outlined for you. We have a beginners cycle group you should investigate that should answer some other questions you may have, so you should consider trying to join. I agree with what's already been said...no needles, then this isn't for you. Think seriously about why you want to do this before you go down this road. This shouldn't be a one off kind of thing if you're going to down this path and there's a lot of preparation and there can be quite an investment in time and money.
Anonwell that beginner cycle group has been removed, I mean the admin for the group removed all the posts for it!
SIMPLE if u wont inject.. no steroids for you... just food and gym. Pill popping will shut down your tetosterone and you wont be able to get your pee pee up for those girls/boys/hand whtever ur into.. and u will be sad and lonely. You always run test in every cycle for a reason. you will feel like shit without it.. its a no no. good luck bud.
You are to young anyways .
If you choose to go with your friends regardless..its,
Test e 12 weeks 250mg 2x a week. mon/thurs ect.
With Aromisin 12.5 mg a day as needed for puffy nipples ect.
14 days after last shot,
Clomid 100/100/50/50
Nolvadex 40/40/20/20
*thats 4 weeks
Now thats how its done first time anything else... is up to you.
Your first cycle should not consist of dbol only.
You will come away from it with nothing but water gains and a hurt liver.
Your first cycle should look something like
500mg Test E/ Week with a correctly ran PCT and an AI on hand. In my opinion if you refuse to use needles than AAS is just not for you.