**First Cycle** test p / var / clen / etc. please help
ok so i really hate to bother anyone on this website, but ive been reading around like a mad man for days and ive done my research so i just needed help with a few things.
im 26 and i weigh 200 right now i was at a lean 185 less than 10% bf and i went on a not so clean bulk. ive been on ghrp6 + cjc no dac for around 3 months now only using 100 / 100.
im looking to run a cycle for 6-9 weeks what do u guys think?? let me know what you guys think of this....
test prop 100mg eod
var 40-50mg ed (20 morning, 20 night)
questionables...
ketotifin 1mg or 2 before bed
clen ? ok so im not sure cause i read so much about this and some people do one week on and one week off, or three weeks on and three off.....other sources say if i use ketotifin then i can run it up to 6 weeks because it preserves the receptors, any thoughts on what worked best for any of you?
t33 weeks on 3 weeks off starting at 50 increasing to 150 and back down to 50 at the end
also should i take my GHRP6 while im on this cycle? i mean i don't see how it could hurt in any way...right?
NEXTdid a lot of reading about this and decided that arimidex and HCG during cycle would be best for me.....im very gyno sensitive so i want to run
arimidex .5mg EOD
HCG 400iu 2x week
PCT
4 days after last test pin
nolva 40/20/20/20 (4 weeks ED)
clomid 100/50/50/50 (4 weeks ED)
now i've read that i should stay away from nolvadex and clomids alone will do the trick, any opinions or advice please?
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Bro,
Calm down, my friend. Steroids are not the key factor in attaining your physique goals. Training and I would say even more - diet. You can pack on pounds of quality muscle with Test. I would suggest you enjoy the standard 12 week Test E cycle we all recommend here as your first. You will get a sense of anabolic "well being" from Test - it's a great feeling and you will be starving and you will want to destroy the gym. No stacks. No peptides. I would like to see more what the quality of your training program and diet is about and if you start with this chemical cocktail your describing you're gonna be looking for answers in all the wrong places. T3? Bro, don't even think about such things.
Peace,
GearHead
Your trying to do too much for your first cycle. Your first cycle should be simple. I'm not flaming you I just don't want people to learn the hard way like I did. First off, that's too much gear for your first cycle. First cycles should not consist of 5 or 6 compounds. It being your first time your not going to know which drug is doing what. The only thing you need is the test and I would switch the prop to enanthate 250 twice a week. Pinning eod your going to be stiff as a board and it will affect you workouts. T3, too early. Running Clen is no walk in the park, its not like dnp, 1st time I ever touched it puke my heart out! If your trying to cut down of bodyfat I would drop the GHRP6. Its going to increase hunger and tempt you to pig out, not good when your dieting. How do you know your "gyno sensitive" if you've never cycled, Puberty Gyno maybe? I would just keep the arimidex on hand in case you need it. If not careful you'll kill too much estrogen.
I took dianabol like an idiot when I was 16 and I started to get gyno and stopped immediately
This is a messy cycle plan. Arimidex should be 0.25mg eod 0.5 is waaay too much. Hcg should be 500iu split into two injections prr week var for a male should be taken at a much higher dose than 40mg a day, around 70-100mg and all the other products u listed dont even consider them. Especially t3. Not long ago we had somebody die from slin so that shit is not to be taken lightly. Also ask yourself could you, as a beginner, pin EOD? Most people when starting out use long esters so they have time to get used to pinning, this is what i would suggest to you
i pin twice a day now with ghrp6
Also you wont need HcG for a 12 week cycle like this
You've got a lot going on here. This is your very first AAS cycle? Okay, why are you choosing to use prop and not a longer estered test (C or E)? Pinning ED is a chore and not fun, especially for a novice. I would recomend test-c or e and pinning twice a week. If you go this route, you will need to wait about two weeks before you start your PCT. I would probably stretch your cycle (if you go with C or E) to 10-12 weeks.
Why are you choosing an oral (Anavar). How long were you planning on taking it? I feel this is probably not a good time your first go around. If you start to get sides, you won't know what it is if you have two or more compounds running at once.
For many of the reasons listed above, I would leave clen alone. You should do great with the test.
I'm going to leave the peptides alone, because I don't have experience with those. Someone else can weigh in regarding them.
well i've been on peptides so im use to the pinning its easy, i chose test p cause from reading online thats what most people have stacked with clen.....i went on a cyle of DNP i forgot to mention so clen should be a walk in the park for me. the anavar would help me with the getting lean and i was planning on taking it for the length i take test
Still.... It looks like several people have weighed in here and the advice is the same: long ester test and that's it for now. I realize you've done other peptides, DNP (yikes), etc., but that doesn't mean you should have a messy cycle to start with. Start fresh and right!
yeah DNP SUCKED!!!! but the results were worth feeling like shit
what are some good cycles to get ripped that i could look into, i don't want to gain too much mass that's my thing im willing to look into something else, its just about what will get me to where i want to be...
It's all about your diet, not the gear. You can get on 500 mg of test-c or e for 10-12 weeks and follow a killer diet and you can really achieve what you want. It's been done over and over again. Viking has a post here that outlines a diet to get ripped (http://www.eroids.com/forum/general/general-talk/wanna-get-ripped-read-this). Follow this and you'll do great. You'll be healthier as well. Once you have this cycle under your belt, you can adjust for your next one. One step at a time.
i feel like 500mg of test is a lot and i'll get huge, as opposed to getting ripped which is what i want, i agree about the dieting that isn't the hard part for me, but id like to have a stacked cycle, that'll help me achieve my goals in a short amount of time. i'll read that page tho and get back to you
thank you
500 was just a starting suggestion. I'm on 300 mg and I have lost weight, but look great (which was my goal). Again, it's all about diet, not the gear.
what are your goals?
Have you ever ran any anabolics before or just peptides?
if so what's your cycle experience ?
i honestly want more definition and to be chiseled out more then anything but i still want to hold onto my size
my goal is to build lean mass, i need my bf % under 10, i want abs and to be ripped with size
i ran dbol when i was 16 stupid idea, other then that only these peptides im on now
slim to no cycle experience, just got a lot of knowledge i have my bs in exercise physiology and ive been lifting since i was a freshman in high school..finally want to cycle and try some...