posted Sun, 07/29/2012 - 04:29
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+ 2 First Cycle Test E - Looking for some input!
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Nevermind the cycle considering the overwhelming amount of comments regarding my age. Thank you everyone for the concern I've abandoned my plan and will stay natty for much longer. This thread can be deleted or whatever.
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+3 from me for showing good attitude and maturity.... feel free like tread says to contact me through PM for any info re/nutrition and training... the only way is up!.. lets do this thing the right way ok brother.
If you want help with training advise pm me. There are ways to train to get bigger faster!
Don't do it. All of us older guys here would kill to have 18 yr old natty test. Your body is still making a gram and a half of test per month. Why shut that down. Kitchen work and weight room work and you will become a monster. Patience my young bro. Trust us please don't do it!
tread-mWell, I have great appreciation for your research and for your willingness to make yourself better! There is a reason those already in here and those yet to come will tell you a cycle is a non-starter as vike said below. In fact 100 reasons. Let me add to what they have said and further explain to you in part why its a bad idea.
You say you would like to get rid of some bf in part. So that and other clues here tell us you do not understand yet the most important part of building, the diet. No its not something you do on cycle, its your life. If you truly want these goals you have to adapt a lifestyle. The hardest part of this lifestyle is the work in the kitchen, it has to be consistent and it can be a pain in the ass but its the price you pay if you truly want this. Only you know.
So let's talk about why you need gear. Test injections for example improve the bodyies ability to utilize protein. The problem is, you have good numbers in test now and the most powerfful drug on earth flowing all through you as we speak. Given that fact, you are currently proving you don't understand the builders diet. So if one of us that do were to put you on it you would be blown away at your achievements in the next yr. If you have the stones to stick to it you will be so impressed with yourself you won't even want gear for several yrs to come and by the way, your buddies will think you are using it anyway because you will have found out how to utilize what you have so well that you will be juicing in effect now knowing how to utilize what it is you have.
No help from any of us on this front above but I'm happy in PM or here to help with getting you on track with a good builders diet and there are many. So this mean we get you in a cut run in the kitchen now to solidify muscle,recomp and lose some bf then change diet to go from there. Recomp is actually a pretty quick and beautiful thing. I promise you, with the proper diet to goal and some good recomp , in a month you'll feel like you are running gear (because you are) and it will be apparent in the mirror. Let us help brother, get the fake shit out of your head because you are loaded with the real deal.
It's kind of scary that I can feel the emotion through a webpost but I really appreciate that you guys care and are giving me the most genuine advice. From all the immediate reactions I'll abandon my idea of using gear but would you mind if I sent you a PM on the diet? I'm curious since you are very confident in it!
tread-mNot at all bud, I'll look for you in FR as soon as I finish a couple things up here. Feel free to lay it out here in addition, a lot of good thinkers and achievers around here.
How long have you been lifting for? Given your stats, if you lift and eat correctly already you should definitely see a doctor and have him test your levels. Any extended period of hard, disciplined training would have you weighing quite a bit more at your height, with way less body fat. I guess what I'm getting at is try training and eating right for 6 months straight. If you have, see a doctor asap and get it sorted out.
Now, you said in your edit 'I should consider aromasin instead of clomid for pct', what you should consider is doing some research. You realize you are talking about 2 completely different compounds here, one is a SERM, the other an AI. You are definitely not ready for a cycle, I hope you don't get all stubborn like the rest of the kids in here because you are getting good advice from everyone. Eat and train! You will (most likely) get old and get to use aas, dont rush it.
do not do any cycle yet alone this one till youre older as its not worth screwing your natty levels up at your age your netty test will be enough to pile on pounds of muscle providing your diet is in check some of us made the mistake of starting gear to young and are now having to pay the concequences
so just stay natural till your at least 25 and depending on how your getting on we can then maybe think about advising a cycle for you but untill then youre way to young to get help doing gear some mods,pros etc can give you all the advice you need to help you get good gains naturally all you have to do is stop thinking about gear and ask them
Most people I talked to said I should be just fine doing a cycle at my age considering I have gone through every puberty stage..
trust me they are idiots and dont give a flying fuck if you fuck your body up youre only 18 and your natty test levels are more than enough to pile on the pounds of muscle and you dont need to spend the money on gear yet so put it away till you are old enough and if you have your diet etc sorted you will grow fairly quickly and maybe even better than those who are on gear that dont have good diets etc the only thing you should be sticking in youre body at your age is creatine the rest of the stuff your body needs should come from a balanced diet
zewiWOW 18 are you serious.. YOU DO NOT NEED GEAR DO NOT DO THIS>>>>>>OMG
X2... Will be having words with anyone that comes in here condoning this cycle... Absolute non starter.