posted Thu, 08/11/2016 - 17:14
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This is my first post on here. To start off I'll give you a little insight on me. I'm 27, 6'1", I weigh around 245lbs at 13%BF. I primarly strength train, as I compete in Strongman.
I've ran 3 cycles. My first was 500wk Test E, second was 250wk Test E 600wk EQ, and for my third I just ran Sustanon 250wk. I've seen great strength results as well as body composition with all three. My question is. I'm preparing to run Sustanon 250wk and Tren E 300wk, Prami .25 ED, Arimidex 1mg 2x per wk and finish off with my normal PCT Clomid and Nolva. I just wanted to gather some thoughts on this cycle and maybe some advice on what i can improve to reduce the chance of sides. Knock on wood I haven't had any sides to date.
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I know its not very popular on this forum but have you considered using Deca? Its stronger than bolde and its long term side effects are well documented, unlike those of tren
There is no alternative to tren, trenbolone is a breed of its own. I would stick with EQ no doubt. I personally have no sides from EQ and get amazing results. If you have achieved great results with EQ then there is a good reason for you to stick with it for now at least.
I appreciate the responses. I get my blood work done regularly and planned on having it done again before I start this cycle. Is there anything comparable to Tren that might be less harsh since it seems that people don't like to recommend Tren.
TestP/NPP/Tbol or Var or Winnie I hear yields the same results as tren without all the nasty sides. Side note I hear tren e yields the worst sides possible, tren a doesn't even come close to the sides tren e gives. Your dose at 300mg isn't crazy so you might be ok. But I'd look into testP350/npp350/oral50
Normally I would not recommend tren to anyone, especially on their 3rd cycle. Since you compete I can see some justification but I hope you are aware that it is one of the harshest steroids available. Be sure you want to go this path.
First off, I would go with tren a for first experience. If the sides are bad, you drop it and it quickly leaves your body. Tren E will linger much longer. Second thing is your choice of test base. I like the low dose, but why sustanon? I assume you want to pin in once a week. In my opinion stable blood levels are key to minimizing many sides. It will be difficult with sustanon and it's mixture of four different esters. Te best way to use sust is ed, you could get away with eod. I know many people use it twice a week or even once a week but I would not experiment with it on my first run with tren, but that's just my opinion. I would say either test p (ed with tren a ed) or test E/C dosed at half cc twice a week for stable blood levels.
Be aware that tren comes not only with physical sides, I personally didn't feel much of the sides like trensomnia and sweating, but it messed with my head really bad. That is the reason for using fast ester on the first run. If it becomes too much, drop it, and after 3 days it should go away. I know that strength and aggression is something you are looking for as a strongmen competition, but it can go far beyond the alpha feeling and confidence of test. Not trying to scare you, just warn you based on my own and my friends experience.
SonofaBitchI loved tren but the mental rollercoaster that comes along with that one needs to be in check. It's actually not hard if you're living a stable life, throw a ratchet in it and you lose control and become a witness to what your body can do without you...
Will be a few more cycles before i think of her again.
It's refreshing to see someone running normal dose cycles.
Personally I don't get any sides from Tren when kept under 400mg/wk. I would recommend Caber .5 x2 pw to avoid prolactin. I don't get any at 300mg/wk but it's better to have it and not need it.
Why throw more gear into your body than need be ? Big misconception about caber ...
Caber is not "gear" so to speak, it's a Med that will reduce sides from prolactin issues if need be. Prolactin comes from two major steroids, Deca and Tren. But like I said, I don't use it because I don't get any sides. BUT I would recommend keeping it on hand in case he does get any prolactin issues which is common from Tren.
This is just something to add to your response and not my consign to ops cycle.
Blood work is key when it comes to prolactin and estrogen. Everyone is different and each person's body is extremely complex. Everyone's reaction is different when it comes to drugs and the side effects that come with them. Keep all ancillaries on hand from ais to prolactin control, don't skimp on them you should be more concerned about about these drugs than the gear. I'd rather have weak or bunk gear than bunk ais or prolactin control. I cannot stress baseline bloods , mid cycle bloods and bloods after pct to make sure you recovered. Do not just eyeball dosages or go by feel when it comes to estrogen and prolactin. As more compounds and dosages get increased the more your ais and prolactin control will need to be tweaked. Common sense.
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