posted Tue, 01/29/2013 - 21:58
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First cycle post several surgeries
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Hey guys, its been 8 months of rehab and being skinny after several surgeries on my shoulder and knees from some SF training. Ive just ordered, and received, my list of ingredients to achieve hugeness (relatively) once again. Please critique or comment on my cycle. Have not started it yet as I want to check with people more knowledgable than myself.
5'11
170
30 yrs old
4th cycle
Cycle
Test Enth 500 mg per week 1-10
Anavar (oral liquid) 100 mg per week 1-8
HCG 250 IU x 2 per week 3-10
Arimidex .25 per day (Prone to gyno, but when should it be started?)
PCT (could use some advice here)
Wait 14 days after last injection
Nolva 20mg ed x 4 weeks
HGH ran entire time @ 5 IU per day with breaks on weekends
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Hey guys, I am nearing the end of my cycle and have been doing 500 IU HCG a week while on cycle. I was wondering if i should blast HCG the last week or so of injections? And if so, what dosage?
Thanks for the responses guys!
I have been on HGH for about 8 months now @ 2IU per day. I read somewhere that it should be increased while on test?
In the past I have mostly used test prop with added orals. I suppose I just did not want to absolutely blow up like a balloon and get smaller gains instead. I realize now this is an actually retarded method. One thing I did gain from these past 4 cycles is a love for anavar. 100 mg per day too much? Should I keep it around 60?
As far as PCT, I was choosing not to use clomid because it basically makes me want to eat kittens, laughing and crying at the same time while running through traffic. Basically crazy. I will definitely switch to aromasin though and Ill make an order today. Do you think I will be fine on just Nolva and Aromasin after running HCG on cycle?
I will increase my cycle length of test enth for another 2 weeks
On your question for pct.. HCG def helps and should make recovery much faster. But have you tried lowering the dose of your clomid? (A little might 25-50mg range may not give you those sides and it's better than nothing) Also you want to split the dose into twice a day.. I found taking 100mg made me feel similar but taking 50mg am then 50mg pm I didn't notice sides. plus the half life is about 12 hours which I did not realize that time I had a bad exp with clomid
New2roidWhen doing PCT since you have HCG onhand you may aswell use it here since it will help your natural production of LH come back.
Also like monstar said "use aromasin" instead of arimidex since arimidex will release the estrogen back once its discontinued, where as aromasin gets rid of the estrogen there and then through your urine.
This is just from what i've read, not from experience.
Well your nuts are gonna be swole from clomid AND HCG at the same time.. Ive done it LOL.. most would say up the hcg right before pct and drop it during pct
New2roidYeah that sounds better i just read clomid has mixed effects, in some cases having a negative rather than a possitive effect on the sex hormone production, in which case i guess it would be a good idea to run HCG.
But obviously it doesn't have this effect on you
Very good. Adex inhibits estro synthesis by binding to the aromatase enzyme. This can lead to estro rebound after adex is discontinued and the enzyme is then released. Aro works by a process called suicide inhibition. Basically it binds to the aromatase enzyme, dies, and takes the enzyme with it. Aro is also better for controlling water retention while running compounds such as test enth and dbol. Overall, the best AI you can run in my opinion.
New2roidThanks! That was in depth
would you suggest to use it at night when estro is high or in morning to prevent estro to build up?
Doesn't really matter. The half life superceeds that anyways. Aro is the only thing I use any more. I'm on some liquid stuff now that is great. Much easier to dose.
AnonTest e wk1-12 500mg
Dbol 40mg\day wk 1-5
Wk 14 pct starts
Aromasin starts week 3 6.25mg\day
Pct standard clomid and nolva
Clomid 50\50\50\50
Nolva 20\20\20\20
Aromasin 6.25\day
I'm planning a simple bulker this next fall with long esters to give my sites a break. Gonna run basically what you've laid out for him. I miss dbol. Haven't ran it in a while.
AnonYea its a good cycle...ran it many times with good success
AnonNeed your goals and previous aas experience to properly advise.....ill check back later
Going strong for 1st cycle after injuries. Anyhow bro, i dont see the need of var(cutting) and test e(bulker) together.... I would say run the test for 12 weeks....Adex is best if used around week 3-4..... PCT standard is, after 2 weeks of last test e injection Clomid 100/100/50/50 Nolva 40/40/20/20 thats a total of 18 weeks. Then wait another 18 weeks and blast again... This is just my humble opinion. More experience users might jump in and give u a better advice than mines....
Very curious why you would choose Var when it seems like you're mainly looking for size.
I'm also curious about the dose of 100mg/week - Typo assume?
Didn't even notice that lol, it's a typo for sure. I was curious about the choice of compound.
Oh also, I will be on HGH the entire time at 5 IU per day with breaks on the weekends
AnonHave you used hgh....if not...dont start that high....ill be glad to lay it out for ya
X2. 5ius per day straight off is likely to bring on a fair few sides. Better off starting at 2 and building up gradually.
AnonAlso im seeing sides at 3 iu
AnonBaaammm.... thank you and gh needs to be run about a year for the true benefit of gh....in my opinion
Give them a vote if you find it helpful.PermalinkWhat benefits would you get from running hgh for a year... vs just during a cycle.. I've been researching hgh and may give it a try but im curious about this because ive heard it before but never gotten an answer as to way a year is better
You're opinions are generally a fact homey. Always enjoy reading your posts. What growth are you running if you're seeing sides at 3ius?