posted Sat, 11/05/2011 - 19:15
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First Cycle in Years!
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Looking for advice from the masses. I have used AAS before but it wasa long time ago, I have over the last two years gotten back into BB and dieting etc. I want to clean/lean bulk, I wan to get a little bigger but at the same time try to cut BF or look hard, as opposed to the normal big soft look of bulking.
I am 30 yoa, 209lbs 6ft tall with appx 16% BF. I have on hand sust 250,Decca 300 and oral winstrol and oral turinabol. Any help would be good,Thanks.
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interesting... don't mind if I throw in my .02
I'd suggest a quick 2-3 wk thermogenic blast before cycle (to bring BF down a bit)
THEN (based on given compounds) I do like what Rods suggested but "I'd" tweak just a bit go with something like this:
wks 1-5 tbol 50ed
wks 1-12 sust 500ew
(dump the deca)
wks 11-14 winstrol 50ed
wks 10-15 liver protectant
PCT
...and of course make sure diet is dialed in
depending on your cycle history i'd try and get my hands on some tren, ive always run deca,test e, tren but i imagine a deca, sust, tren would be a pretty hardcore bulker. it maybe something worth taking a look into bro. good luck!
AnonNot sure if your BF is ideal for a cycle or what have your run before but here it goes:
Week 1-4 tbol 40mg
Week 1-12 sust 500mg
Week 1-11 deca 300mg
Week 11-15 winstrol 40mg
Week 15-19 pct
Week 10-15 milk thistle 1g or liv 52 ds 2 caps ed
Make sure you got all ancillaries on hand cause at your current bf you are taking a risk, good luck
Anonjust curious about your use of deca for a cutting cycle.. that would not be on my list rather I would say eq or primo with my first choice being the eq.
AnonI dont bloat much from deca, dont know if i would use it solely for cutting (npp would be nice for a cut) but for a lean bulk it is ideal. If you dont overeat salts and sugars/carbs you dont puff up at all, you will always have the "gut" but that is hormonal you cant do much about that and it will be gone before you even enter pct. You can also lift those extra 2-5 reps with deca which is great to increase density and vascularity. Eq is hard to control as far as appetite goes you will be depressed/angry if you dont eat, anavar seems to fix that nicely. Primo i havent tried yet but is supposed to be perfect even with fasting. I found with Eq that once it kicks even if you eat like a horse you still lean out.
Anonthat's good to know.. on my deca cycle I didn't carry a LOT of water weight especially after my body adjusted to it but enough that for me, I would use it for a bulking cycle. Those extra reps are gold though... but I seem to be able to replicate that with Tbol. The primo doesn't make me hungry at all ( I attribute my hunger to training and lifting real heavy right now).
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AnonIdeally you should be arround the 10% mark before you start. There is more risk for sides the more bf you carry. Also the winstrol will be a bit of a waste it is harsh and if you dont have less than 10% bf it doesnt worth the risk
tread-mWhich of those compounds have you used before?
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