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First Cycle help/questions

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What up all,

First off my stats are 28 yrs, 202lbs, 14.5% bf, 5'10''

I have been working out consistently for over 2yrs and on/off for many years before that. I have really been looking into starting my first cycle and i have been reading a ton about what other people are doing/have done. My goal is to get hard, cut and lean. My thought is to run test e 3-500mg twice a week for 12 wks and depending on how my body reacts after week 3 I might up it. Along with that i was thinking about stacking 50mg Winny ed from weeks 4-9 (i thought about anavar but from what i have seen it is way to expensive), 2 weeks after my last injection i was going to run my pct nolva 50mg week 14 and 15 the reduce it to 25mg for week 16 and 17. I have read to run HCG 250iu every 3 days but is that necessary for my first cycle? I also read that I should run between 10 and 40 mg of Aromasin ED but I have also read that that is not necessary also?? I am not going to make any rash decisions and any advice will help. I don't want to throw money away and I want see results and do this with as much information as possible.

If there is a better first cycle for what my goals are i'd love to hear about it.

Thanks for the advice in advance

Nation's picture

This is great info for sure. I have the adex and nolva and I have been training twice a day every day. My diet is on point for sure I eat a lot of protien good carbsand very little fat unless i cheat and eat bacon with breakfast(its my weakness) and i have lost a considerable amount of fat while gaining some definite strength.I do want to lose about 10 more pounds of fat and was thinking about taking clen but i am not sure of a legit source. Ive read through the forums but really dont know who to trust. If you can PM me any info you have that would be awesome. I do have injectable winny but I am going to hold off on it becasue of everything I have read.

One other question I do have is that i am waking up tired but i get 8 or more hrs of sleep every night. I take my vitimans, amino acids etc but i still feel slugish the first few hrs i am up. Got any advice on why and how to get over it?

dclark0326's picture

I'm getting ready to do my first run on gear as well..... In my research I found it would probably be best to stick to test without the winny.... See how your body handles just test before you start stacking!!! There is a good post on this in the forum titled Test!!! Check it out!!!

Nation's picture

also got some adex just in case...no one wants bitch tits

Nation's picture

No why?

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Week 3 and man I feel great. I've gained about some pretty nice lean muscle my body fat is dropping because I am working so hard and I am about to stack my cycle for 6 weeks with winny to get the real definition I am looking for. I am super pumped always and I am on point all day every day. Hard work is starting to payoff and I like it!

Nation's picture

So im 2 weeks in and I'm feeling great. The first pin made me break out in some serious sweats but its gone down after every pin. My skin is starting to get oily but thats cool because i am ocd about showering and washing my face...Anyway i'm getting harder all around and my gains are slowly increasing. I know most people say you start to feel the effects after week 3 or 4 but i'm liking what i'm seeing so far. Once im done with the cycle il post some before and after pics.

Nation's picture

So I got my first cycle ended up with Axio labs test c and the Nolva, i also got some liquid clen.. Ill let you know the progress!

JonnyCage's picture

Out of curiousity, what made you decide to choose Test C over Test E? Also I think you should add Clomid to your PCT plan

Nation's picture

There was nothing really that drove me to C over E, in reality they have almost identical characteristics the main difference is E has a stronger half life. I was looking a ordering from a few sources online then a buddy ended up knowing someone locally so I went for what was closer and thats what he had. I was thinking about the clomid and HCG he just didnt have any..

fastbacktest's picture

you should get greeeaat gains with test-e 500mg week... you will feel good on this love it

c-rooster's picture

I would just go w a straight test cycle to kick start bro also give you a base line. No orals this time. You can stock up on nova clomid aromasin and hcg its not a waste of money at all cuz you gonna need that stuff eventually, but you need to see how your body reacts and what sides you are privy to at a low dose. Not trying to shoot down your motivation you have obv done some researching which is good. Knowledge is power.

Nation's picture

So you think its best to run the test 500mg every 3 days for 12-14 wks?

Bigdawg201067's picture

I think he is saying run 500mg of test/week which is standard for a newbie, split into two shots 250mg monday and 250mg thursday, there is no way you would want to do 1500mgs of test per week if you plan on living long, hope this clarifys dosage for you, if you have anymore questions pm me.

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Nation's picture

Thanks for clearing that up man..

eatbig's picture

Im on my first cycle rite now with ABs Test E at 500mgs a week split 250mgs monday and 250mgs thursday and will use Nolva at 40/40/20/20 for pct. I didn't choose to run hcg since it was a moderate cycle. I also have adex on hand in case of gyno which I havn't had to use yet. My strength gains with test only has been incredible and Ive gained 19lbs. People are noticing and tellin me I look huge. Just do test e only at 500mgs. You will love it for sure.